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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: chargervert] #3110567
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That would be a case of bidders reaching deep into their pockets in order to own something nobody else has….those guys are out there!

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #3110596
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i always wondered about alcohol, pretty women, and "auction fever"............... biggrin
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #3110615
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[quote=Pacnorthcuda]That would be a case of bidders reaching deep into their pockets in order to own something nobody else has….those guys are out there! [/quote





They are buying the story as much ormore than the car! I don't doubt the he took the car out from time to time and beat up on some lesser muscle cars,but you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure out the the heavy hitters on the street racing scene were running low tens some even high nines,and this car had nothing for them.


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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: chargervert] #3110683
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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: moparx] #3110762
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Originally Posted by moparx
i always wondered about alcohol, pretty women, and "auction fever"............... biggrin
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I noticed several years ago watching BJ a lot of the bidders on $$$$ cars had a drink in their hand and that happy grin on their face. I've always wondered how much sober regret there was later.

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3110825
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Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
Glad to see others questioning this cars "legendary" status. I have a hard time believing a relatively stock hemi challenger was such a "legend" street racing around Detroit back then.


Had a lightweight '67 Dart with a hot 340 that would smoke stock hemi Challenger without breaking a sweat.

Aluminum flywheel, 4:10's out back and it was wind up and go! By time the other guy hooked up I was already up and gone and that 340 was singling it's song.

The Detroit cars had a considerable hard core reputation, if this car was near stock it was a poser.




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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: justinp61] #3110834
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Originally Posted by justinp61
Originally Posted by BloFish
The story reads well, but definitely fiction.


Yeah, but the rich guy that buys it will have a cool story to tell his rich buddies at the country club. It'll probably be so fast he'll be afraid to drive it. grin

In all seriousness I hope it goes to a car guy.


Don't think that will happen, a real "car guy" will stop at the price where the embellishment starts. Someone that wants to be a "car guy" that isn't, will reach deeper in the pocket and it will be flipped and flipped and flipped for decades to come. Come on now we've all seen this movie before and know the sad ending.

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: justinp61] #3111007
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Originally Posted by justinp61
Originally Posted by moparx
i always wondered about alcohol, pretty women, and "auction fever"............... biggrin
beer


I noticed several years ago watching BJ a lot of the bidders on $$$$ cars had a drink in their hand and that happy grin on their face. I've always wondered how much sober regret there was later.


I could give you the number of a guy that got stung 6 x on his first BJ experience and 2x on the 2nd while he was re-selling 4 of the 🐷 's he bought the 1st time. tese were 100K + cars realcrazy
When his wife found out how many $$ he was spending the fan catfight
his 400K garage is now empty tsk

I've also had a few phone calls from hung over buyers inquiring about the keys in their rooms with my key fob on the ring blush

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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: moparx] #3111009
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If cars sell Under/Near market value then Cheer.
If they sell Over market value then Laugh.
That Simple.

Originally Posted by moparx
i always wondered about alcohol, pretty women, and "auction fever"............... biggrin
beer

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: not_a_charger] #3111050
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Originally Posted by not_a_charger


You know nothing about him, his father, or his situation, but speculate away to fit whatever narrative makes you feel better.


Thank you.

Lots of nosy people on the Internet.

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #3112893
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did it sell?


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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: 05dakota] #3112900
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Originally Posted by 05dakota
did it sell?

No. It doesn't go across the block until May I think. More time for hype. rolleyes


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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: gdonovan] #3114623
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Originally Posted by gdonovan
[quote=an8sec70cuda]Glad to see others questioning this cars "legendary" status. I have a hard time believing a relatively stock hemi challenger was such a "legend" street racing around Detroit back then.


Had a lightweight '67 Dart with a hot 340 that would smoke stock hemi Challenger without breaking a sweat.

Aluminum flywheel, 4:10's out back and it was wind up and go! By time the other guy hooked up I was already up and gone and that 340 was singling it's song.

The Detroit cars had a considerable hard core reputation, if this car was near stock it was a poser. [/quote

In the seventies, my town and another town in KY had legendary 340 GTS’s . No doubt many others did too.


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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: HoosierTA] #3114678
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Stop light to stop light, or the run to 3rd gear racing is all about getting the car to move. When you know how the car your butt is sitting in works, it doesn't have to be a 10 second car to beat a 10 second car, it just has to be a car you can get moving better then the other guy, and not screw up its progress for a very short time frame. Kick azz up to 50 mph, then your done. Short shift, keep the motor in the low end of the power band, don't spin the tires too much. It really doesn't matter how strong a car can finish in a quarter mile if the finish line is a lot closer to the start line, what matters is how fast it starts. Most street races were way shorter then 1/8th mile runs, maybe 100 to 300 feet, and that may even include shutdown space.

An early production Hemi Challenger on slicks with a driver that knew how to get it off the line, would have been a potent combo through the early years of the 1970s. The story said he quit racing when things got to dangerous, it didn't take many years into the 70s before the races got longer and the speeds got faster.

It even worked pretty well into the mid 80s, and a guy didn't need a Hemi. In stop light to stop light street racing, I kicked a lot of drag racers butts, they couldn't comprehend the short race process. Most cried about wanting to run a "real" race, I always told them they came on my turf to pick a fight and they lost, now go home. I knew better then to run them at a drag strip, that was a much different environment for a much different car then I had.

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: HoosierTA] #3114752
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Originally Posted by HoosierTA
Originally Posted by gdonovan
[quote=an8sec70cuda]Glad to see others questioning this cars "legendary" status. I have a hard time believing a relatively stock hemi challenger was such a "legend" street racing around Detroit back then.


Had a lightweight '67 Dart with a hot 340 that would smoke stock hemi Challenger without breaking a sweat.

Aluminum flywheel, 4:10's out back and it was wind up and go! By time the other guy hooked up I was already up and gone and that 340 was singling it's song.

The Detroit cars had a considerable hard core reputation, if this car was near stock it was a poser. [/quote

In the seventies, my town and another town in KY had legendary 340 GTS’s . No doubt many others did too.


In the early 70's my brother and a bunch of his buddies were involved in street racing. In the summer of 71 one of the local guys had a cousin from Chicago come to visit. He drove in a 71 340 four speed Demon from Mr Norms, on the first night of racing he cleaned all the local hitters clocks, I grew up and still live in a rural area and know of a bunch of roads in the surrounding area that had 1/4 mile stretches marked off. There is only a caution light in my closest town so no stop light racing. LOL

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: justinp61] #3115050
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Has any self proclaimed street racer ever lost?

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: poorboy] #3115053
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Originally Posted by poorboy


An early production Hemi Challenger on slicks with a driver that knew how to get it off the line, would have been a potent combo through the early years of the 1970s..


growing up on staten island (nycity) 1968-1970 , we would go down to south ave, or arden ave n watch racing all nite long... it was a wonderful time to be young.. but sorry my recall is that mopar's were 'duds'.... never saw one ...on the street, during that time... that could run...

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: McCandlessboy] #3115126
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Originally Posted by McCandlessboy
Has any self proclaimed street racer ever lost?


I lost, no big deal.

Don't know anyone that never lost. Unless they were a 1 and done type. Stoplight stuff isn't the measure. The fly-by, "I beat you" was always funny.

Hard running mopars on the streets in the 80's were hard to find in most places. Same as always, way more expensive to get good starting point parts. I could build a stout 468-500" BB Chevy for about the same cost as a core 426 hemi. Go to a swap and there were rect port alum BB chevy heads all over the place, CHEAP. Years go buy, same situation.

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Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: McCandlessboy] #3115137
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Originally Posted by McCandlessboy
Has any self proclaimed street racer ever lost?


I have, it goes along with winning.

Re: Black Ghost' Dodge Challenger headed to Mecum auction [Re: theraif] #3115634
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https://youtu.be/ByQrnaAjQcU Explanation from the horse’s mouth. Also info about the availability of the new Black Ghost model


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