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Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again #3109682
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"The Dodge Challenger won the Detroit pony car war again in 2022, managing to outsell the Ford Mustang and Chevrolet Camaro for the second consecutive year. Not bad for a basic design that dates back to the 2008 model year.

U.S. sales figures show Dodge sold 55,060 Challengers in 2022, which was up about 1% from the previous year."


www.motorauthority.com/news/1138356...ord-mustang-and-chevrolet-camaro-in-2022


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: DaveRS23] #3109684
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I'm sure this coming year will be the same. Then what?

Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: DaveRS23] #3109697
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Not sure its a fair fight considering all the shortages. Mustang usually wins

Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: Dart 500] #3109732
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On the plus side...the next generation Mustang kinda looks like a Camaro....which happens to also be one ugly car.


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: DaveRS23] #3109737
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Puttin' on the foil in Charles...
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Puttin' on the foil in Charles...
Thanks Enterprise!


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: Dart 500] #3109798
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Originally Posted by Dart 500
Not sure its a fair fight considering all the shortages. Mustang usually wins



The challenger has been gaining ground since they came out, this is not new because of the shortages. And of course dodge is going to shoot their selves in the foot and ax it in favor of a vacuum cleaner.


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: HotRodDave] #3109826
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Originally Posted by HotRodDave
Originally Posted by Dart 500
Not sure its a fair fight considering all the shortages. Mustang usually wins



The challenger has been gaining ground since they came out, this is not new because of the shortages. And of course dodge is going to shoot their selves in the foot and ax it in favor of a vacuum cleaner.


But it does make some fake sounds meant to imply ICE


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: DaveRS23] #3109828
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And don't forget the Challengers are on the top of the more stolen list too. If there was a Mustang and a Camaro with the keys in them, the doors unlocked, windows down and the engines running, sitting next to a locked Challenger guess which one would be stolen laugh2 laugh2

Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: A12] #3109845
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At least Fird is doing what Dodge should have continuing to sell the gas one along with electric.
For a while Stelantis was touting the upcoming 6 cylinder so hopefully something is in the works with it.

Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: 5thAve] #3109853
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Originally Posted by 5thAve
At least Fird is doing what Dodge should have continuing to sell the gas one along with electric.
For a while Stelantis was touting the upcoming 6 cylinder so hopefully something is in the works with it.


There should be but the 6 cyl will also be a hard sell, even with 410 and 510hp

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At least Ford and GM are still offering a factory ragtop! If Dodge would have done a ragtop there wouldn't be a Mustang GT in my garage!

Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: Dcuda69] #3110014
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Did you not read the headline? Challenger outsells the competition. Again. And the competition has convertibles. Does that not tell you something?


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: DaveRS23] #3110090
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Did you not read the headline? Challenger outsells the competition. Again. And the competition has convertibles. Does that not tell you something?


Dodge does have a challenger convertible for 2023, but I have no idea how they plan to build them. Apparently they have an agreement with a custom shop in Florida to do them after you order it. I think they will get a lot of orders as there is probably "a bit" of pent up demand after never offering any since 2008.

I use to work in an ASC convertible factory, for the Toyota Solera, not exactly a strong seller like the challenger and the plant still ran 24/7. We were a separate factory down the road from the Toyota plant that built the cars, they first showed up as bodies in white to get the roof cut off and bracing welded in, then they went back to be assembled, then came back to us for convertible top and finishing.

I have no idea how Dodge plans to run 20,000~ challengers through a small shop in Florida, and maybe they figured that out because you still can't order one

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Challenger does surprisingly well with younger folk who: 1 Have no interest in golden era muscle cars. 2 Don't even know or car about the 1970 -74 Dodge Challenger. The mimicking of those classic lines does very well and non gear heads buy them because they flat out like the look. The V8 power options are an attraction too. On modern Mopar discussion sites anytime an "Older gent" mentions how great the Hemi is all the younger members automatically think of the modern Hemi and an LS and modern Hemi debate ensues.


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: not_a_charger] #3110232
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Originally Posted by not_a_charger
Thanks Enterprise!


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Re: Challenger outsells rustang and crapmaro.......again [Re: not_a_charger] #3110239
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Originally Posted by not_a_charger
Thanks Enterprise!


Yep, rented one many years ago on a business trip to Thousand Oaks, CA. Well not intentionally, Enterprise was out of the car I initially reserved and gave me a choice of colors on a Challenger. Tough time at first picking a color until I looked around and saw all of the white cars of every variety in the lot and on the road. Nice driving car that I "took the long way home" with the spare time before and after the job I was there to do. Coast Highway, Queen Mary and crawling for two and a half hours that would normally, without too much traffic, take about an hour to get from the Queen Mary to Thousand Oaks. I HATE LA TRAFFIC. So I returned down the coast highway to LAX to return the Challenger, but first with a stop at the Hot Rod Magazine shop for a private tour. Don't know if it's still there off of Wilshire Blvd??

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^ Did the same thing but with an ecoboost mustang convertible, other car wasn't available and they had a row of mustangs in different colors, grabbed the black one and "took the long way home". It was actually my last big work trip, I quit after getting home.

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Originally Posted by A12
Yep, rented one many years ago on a business trip to Thousand Oaks, CA. Well not intentionally, Enterprise was out of the car I initially reserved and gave me a choice of colors on a Challenger. Tough time at first picking a color until I looked around and saw all of the white cars of every variety in the lot and on the road. Nice driving car that I "took the long way home" with the spare time before and after the job I was there to do. Coast Highway, Queen Mary and crawling for two and a half hours that would normally, without too much traffic, take about an hour to get from the Queen Mary to Thousand Oaks. I HATE LA TRAFFIC. So I returned down the coast highway to LAX to return the Challenger, but first with a stop at the Hot Rod Magazine shop for a private tour. Don't know if it's still there off of Wilshire Blvd??


Cool. I have family in Thousand Oaks/Westlake Village. Been there several times. Was a ton of fun, but way too crowded for me to live there. And you have to work your schedule around traffic volumes. My relatives rarely go into L.A. because of the traffic getting there. That and the 'other' problems there. With air travel the way it is now, we will probably never go back. frown


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Hard to believe that so many sell each year from a body style that is basically the same since 2008. It just goes to show America loves a nice looking 2 door musclecar with V8 power regardless of gas prices and all the EV hoopla.


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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
"The Dodge Challenger won the Detroit pony car war again in 2022, managing to outsell the Ford Mustang and Chevrolet Camaro for the second consecutive year. Not bad for a basic design that dates back to the 2008 model year.

U.S. sales figures show Dodge sold 55,060 Challengers in 2022, which was up about 1% from the previous year."


www.motorauthority.com/news/1138356...ord-mustang-and-chevrolet-camaro-in-2022


Great news. thumbs

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