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Re: Nostalgia Pro Stock Association is here!
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05/15/09 11:59 PM
05/15/09 11:59 PM
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gulfport, ms, west mi
rowin4
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You are selling them a pig with lipstick. Spectators won't buy it.
I respect your opinion and the right to have one but it's only an opinion and not based on facts.With ten years of experience to draw from I can tell a completely different story.
Come watch me make 8.50 passes with my p/glide. I am the only original high dollar pro stock car that I know in the country that does that.then come back to the pits when the crowd gathers.Talk to the people and the first comment always is how great it was and the feelings it gave them to see a piece of history making full out runs. Seldom if any fans even notice the trans choice or make comments about the trans . when told why I run the p/g not once have a heard a negative remark. the trans choice issue is far overwelmed by the satisfaction of seeing the car again.Fans want to see the actual cars race. Replacement drivelines are immaterial
Fred, i respect your opinion also but I also know that people like to see a person drive and actually shift a race car. Not just stage, put your thumb on a button and floor it, release the button and off you go letting the MSD do the calculated shifting. I won't get into the throttle stop class that most people don't understand and think it's just stupid. I've had people come up to me after a run and say it was worth the price of admission to watch a 4-speed car and a person who can shift go down the track and i don't have a old pro stock car or even a good looking car.  I vote for no automatics
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: Nostalgia Pro Stock Association is here!
[Re: rowin4]
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05/16/09 12:10 AM
05/16/09 12:10 AM
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You are selling them a pig with lipstick. Spectators won't buy it.
I respect your opinion and the right to have one but it's only an opinion and not based on facts.With ten years of experience to draw from I can tell a completely different story.
Come watch me make 8.50 passes with my p/glide. I am the only original high dollar pro stock car that I know in the country that does that.then come back to the pits when the crowd gathers.Talk to the people and the first comment always is how great it was and the feelings it gave them to see a piece of history making full out runs. Seldom if any fans even notice the trans choice or make comments about the trans . when told why I run the p/g not once have a heard a negative remark. the trans choice issue is far overwelmed by the satisfaction of seeing the car again.Fans want to see the actual cars race. Replacement drivelines are immaterial
Fred, i respect your opinion also but I also know that people like to see a person drive and actually shift a race car. Not just stage, put your thumb on a button and floor it, release the button and off you go letting the MSD do the calculated shifting. I won't get into the throttle stop class that most people don't understand and think it's just stupid. I've had people come up to me after a run and say it was worth the price of admission to watch a 4-speed car and a person who can shift go down the track and i don't have a old pro stock car or even a good looking car. I vote for no automatics
Everyone knows I'm not a chevy guy but a 62 year old man named Mike Boyles, Who drives a 57 Chevy wagon with a 283 and a 4 speed won an IHRA points race is Super Stock last week. The car run a modified type motor and leaves with wheels 3 feet in air for 3 gears. There was a betting section at this track and EVERYONE wanted to see this car win. The car is "good ole Charlie Brown", its been a race car since 1972 and has been raced for 37 straight years. The bottom line is I was pulling for him also as he and my dad go back a long way. Why was I pulling for him? What more cooler than a 283 manually shifted 4 speed wagon NOT A JERICO SISSY MATIC.
Herb Jr
NOW MY NEXT QUESTION, ARE TRANSBRAKES LEGAL OR NOT?
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[Re: RaceCarRegistry]
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05/16/09 03:40 AM
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Re: Nostalgia Pro Stock Association is here!
#309808
05/16/09 08:05 AM
05/16/09 08:05 AM
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the fans don't know a trans brake leave from a stick.
That has to the the stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on a message board.
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Re: Nostalgia Pro Stock Association is here!
[Re: MoparMichael]
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05/16/09 12:24 PM
05/16/09 12:24 PM
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"What more cooler than a 283 manually shifted 4 speed wagon NOT A JERICO SISSY MATIC." Well, I saw Jack Mullin's 421 SD Wagon (SS/O?) circa 1975 run in a Division 2 race at Bradenton. That was a fun car to watch as Jack banged the gears in that big ol' wagon. That Chevy wagon sounds like one of the Jr. Stockers from the late 1960s. There is a guy that runs in Division 4 with a 55-57 Chevy (not a wagon) that runs a 4-speed in SS. I think the little engines are fun to watch since they buzz the heck out of them. 
Floyd Lippencott IV
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Re: Nostalgia Pro Stock Association is here!
[Re: mr_340]
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05/16/09 12:36 PM
05/16/09 12:36 PM
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One aspect of the Auto vs. Stick debate here is the sticks were quicker in 1970. If they had the torque converters and a Proflite tranny available back then, how many guys would have run one of those? OK, we know Ronnie, Donnie and Herb still would have run the sticks, but I would guess some of the lesser masters of the 4-speed might have switched. Not all of us are that good.
On the other hand, the 4-speed still sounds better and reflects the era better. I'm for keeping it period correct, but the automatics were legal at the time. I don't think the Clutchflite was reliable. SS/AH is still exciting even though most have the auto. I think the manual still has a HP/weight break over the auto in that class.
Floyd Lippencott IV
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Re: Nostalgia Pro Stock Association is here!
[Re: drag318]
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05/16/09 08:43 PM
05/16/09 08:43 PM
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Mopar + powerglide = 
I agree. Just because one CAN run a PG, doesn't mean one SHOULD. Now I understand conveinience, consisitency, etc. but remember the purpose of the class is to re-anct & honor those drivers & cars that got many of us so excited about hot rods in the first place. Maybe the unknowing can't tell an auto vs. stick launch but I believe myself & many others can, and besides, who wouldn't want to get back to bangin' gears like the old days? The high-end guys can cetainly afford to convert & the low-buck guys (like myself) would look at it as finally "stepping up" to ProStock and racing like we always wanted to. This is a class that could be as successful as CIFCA is out West. Anyone that sees a CIFCA event isn't expecting 4 or 5 second times--- they want to see something different or perhaps an old favorite running again & that's it. The posters here crying over stick-vs.- automatic are, IMO taking it all too seriously which IS how this whole thing will get killed.Instead the veteran & high-dollar guys should be encouraging everyone to step into the arena instead of bickering amongst themselves over a simple trans swap. Again, remember the purpose of the class, for now, is to have fun.
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Re: Nostalgia Pro Stock Association is here!
[Re: MoparMichael]
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05/16/09 11:22 PM
05/16/09 11:22 PM
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have arrow on jig. let me know for sure about this class want to build clone of leals arrow. was going to stretch wheel base to 104 and run top sportsman but would rather do this deal. let me know on trans. also. thanks.maybe this deal will come thur.
Like this? BTW I currently own the truck in the background!
Herb Jr. ... I'll post rules on Monday. I hope they'll answer all of your questions and I look forward to your input!
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Re: Nostalgia Pro Stock Association is here!
[Re: MoparMichael]
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05/17/09 09:41 AM
05/17/09 09:41 AM
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theclutcher
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Herbs car at the Hemi reunion was absolutely beautiful, what a ride.
833 no pg.
yep arrows and colts, smallblock and manual trans.
---Yummy---
Last edited by theclutcher; 05/17/09 10:14 AM.
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