Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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So you are gonna go 8.40s in an all steel 65 Plymouth with 2 AFB style carbs on an INDY crossram. I want to see that.
Monte
Well Monte in THOERY they should be hitting that number. Look at the SS/AH with what...440 or so inches. Those guys have no cubic inch limit it seems as they're all claiming BIG wedgies. So yea, if the moder's a biggie, it SHOULD run the number...
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
[Re: DJVCuda]
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What are you talking about john? I can smell the love from here!
Speaking of Love... Will BGR send help again to SSR, as requested...
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
[Re: cudadoug]
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Those guys have no cubic inch limit it seems as they're all claiming BIG wedgies.
This is exactally why if NSS had weight to cubic inch classes/index's it would be more of a real deal than just throwing fiberglass and cubic inches along with cubic money around and boasting 'look what I can do'
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
[Re: cudadoug]
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So you are gonna go 8.40s in an all steel 65 Plymouth with 2 AFB style carbs on an INDY crossram. I want to see that.
Monte
Well Monte in THOERY they should be hitting that number. Look at the SS/AH with what...440 or so inches. Those guys have no cubic inch limit it seems as they're all claiming BIG wedgies. So yea, if the moder's a biggie, it SHOULD run the number...
A SS/AH, is...well...a HEMI, not a wedge with a poorly designed intake and even more sorry carbs. SS/AH cars have big tires, 4 links and they scream those motors to 9,000+ rpm. It takes a SERIOUS piece of any kind to push a 3,000 pound car to low 8s, much less one restricted to that intake and carb combo.
Monte
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
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So you are gonna go 8.40s in an all steel 65 Plymouth with 2 AFB style carbs on an INDY crossram. I want to see that.
Monte
Well Monte in THOERY they should be hitting that number. Look at the SS/AH with what...440 or so inches. Those guys have no cubic inch limit it seems as they're all claiming BIG wedgies. So yea, if the moder's a biggie, it SHOULD run the number...
A SS/AH, is...well...a HEMI, not a wedge with a poorly designed intake and even more sorry carbs. SS/AH cars have big tires, 4 links and they scream those motors to 9,000+ rpm. It takes a SERIOUS piece of any kind to push a 3,000 pound car to low 8s, much less one restricted to that intake and carb combo.
Monte
In addition to what Monte said, most of the SS/AH motors in the fast cars arn't built to go a whole season of bracket racing. Those guys are set for kill, not the same as someone that wants to dial in for a season without constant wrenching.
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
[Re: HemiDart68]
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What's so "nostalgic" about a NSS car running 9's, much less 8's? Just my .
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
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"What's so "nostalgic" about a NSS car running 9's, much less 8's?" It's fast, and I applaud the effort it takes to do it, but to me it's a fast bracket car....not a NSS car.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
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Not saying its impossible but... I would bet it would take better than 1000HP to the rear tires to get it done at 3K lbs.. And figure in 18-20% drive train loss...well its a bunch North of 1500hp to the crank. Said engine in AJ's car would just about qualify in the Pro stock field.
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
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"This is exactally why if NSS had weight to cubic inch classes/index's it would be more of a real deal than just throwing fiberglass and cubic inches along with cubic money around and boasting 'look what I can do' " If it were that way it would be ALL about money. Right now, if Chris runs his 8.40, I can still win with my 10.80...he has no real advantage except maybe in bragging rights. Make it an unlimited budget "car for the class" and it will be ruined.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
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I think the cool thing about NSS is there is room for almost everyone running the old style engines and bodys. You can have a guy running a period correct 409 running 12:00s or a guy running a max effort 427FE going in the 8s. They all are on an equal playing field because of the index style racing. The challenge for me is to see how hard I can make my 1963 block FE run within my budget. I also want to go some rounds in the eliminator. The old style motors are what make it interesting to me. I could be going alot faster, easier and cheaper with a 460 style big block(not NSS legal) but I choose to run the FE and go NSS racing. By the way we had 29 NSS cars at the first 422 Allstars race... I think that is pretty good and they fed us to boot!!!
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
[Re: Troublemaker427]
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Jody.....we had planned to be there, but some things came up, family wise, and it couldn't be done. I was bummed, and pouted around for a while but I did get over it.
Perhaps we'll see you at Numida....or MG, certainly at BSD.
How did you do?
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
[Re: Steve1118]
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I didn't do well. I had some oil pressure issues in qualifying so I withdrew my car and became crew chief for dad... We found the problem at home and the car is fixed and ready to go now. Dad went a couple of rounds though. We had a good time and saw lots of old friends. The food was good too!! I was looking for you. I wondered what had happened to you.
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
[Re: Troublemaker427]
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I would think that it would take a setup like the old NSCA Pro Nostalgia class...Four link, all fiberglass doors, fenders, hood, deck lid, bumpers and lexan windows, Gutted interior..Then a 600cu.in. motor with high dollar heads, sheet metal intake with 850 holleys, pro trans, trans brake...Brian Booze's 61'Galaxie comes to mind..And It was a stick car..It went what 8.70 pretty consistent..You re taking three tenths quicker than that car.
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
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I would think that it would take a setup like the old NSCA Pro Nostalgia class...Four link, all fiberglass doors, fenders, hood, deck lid, bumpers and lexan windows, Gutted interior..Then a 600cu.in. motor with high dollar heads, sheet metal intake with 850 holleys, pro trans, trans brake...Brian Booze's 61'Galaxie comes to mind..And It was a stick car..It went what 8.70 pretty consistent..You re taking three tenths quicker than that car.
Exactly, but talk is easy. Im gonna break the sound barrier this year and go faster then a pro stock car. See how easy that was.
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Re: Nostalgia Super Stock will be going to the next level!!
[Re: REHBERGERRACING]
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you'll see, i have most of the parts are here and this combo makes 1200+ HP on motor MONTE.its naturally aspirated no artificial stuff.this is a proven combo already been built and run with well over 100 passes last season its a proven combo.there are plenty of 8.50 cars with nitrous on 10.5 tires going 8.50's. my car is 3322 lbs. maybe after i make a few passes i'll take one of those high quality chassis classes you offer. its funny how all you children cant wish me luck like some of your other moparts buddies. its all good though. just wish me luck.its fun going fast and addicting. ill post results on utube when its done. and it will be on a 10.5 tire, NO SPRAY. even if it goes 8.50 which shouldnt be a problem, this is gonna be one heck of a ride. thanks for all the positive helpful compliments.
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