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Re: Another wheel tire combo question. [Re: Mally69] #3084588
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It's none of my business, but did you happen to notice the "Not DOT Approved" note?

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I did actually. I didnt think it would matter much. They look good. Pros and cons? I would assume they would be better than a factory steelie thats all black.

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definitely not a street wheel."These wheels are an excellent economical choice for either dirt or asphalt applications. Their black chrome finish is sure to add an intimidating custom look to your race car." 5" back spacing and center hole way to big for Mopars to be hub centric.

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Originally Posted by stumpy
definitely not a street wheel."These wheels are an excellent economical choice for either dirt or asphalt applications. Their black chrome finish is sure to add an intimidating custom look to your race car." 5" back spacing and center hole way to big for Mopars to be hub centric.


Im assuming you mean they wont work? I liked the black chrome look. Thats why i picked them. If they wont work def let me know , i havent ordered them yet

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What are you planning to put them on? The back spacing may not work. These are meant for roundy round dirt track racing not for The pot holes etc. you run across on the street. If you keep looking I'm sure you will find some black chrome wheels that are designed for street use.

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Originally Posted by stumpy
What are you planning to put them on? The back spacing may not work. These are meant for roundy round dirt track racing not for The pot holes etc. you run across on the street. If you keep looking I'm sure you will find some black chrome wheels that are designed for street use.


69 superbee. I never gave any of that a thought. I mean its not like im going to be beating it over potholes. Or driving it that much for that matter. Ill prob just dick around , pull some hole shots cruise town prob wont ever take it to the track. I have around 700hp hemi 4spd and dot drag radials lined up for this setup. If they wont work at all or if there is a major reason i cant use them def let me know. I cant seem to find any other black chrome ones as of now . You have me looking tho. I have all the backspacing and widths all figured out they will fit.

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Re: Another wheel tire combo question. [Re: Mally69] #3084637
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They should be ok, Heck my Centerlines are not hub centric, I bought some hub rings so they are now


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Re: Another wheel tire combo question. [Re: topside] #3084645
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Originally Posted by topside

There's been at least one member here with a '69 GTX who ran 295/65s on 15x10s with 5.5 BS without problems.


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Re: Another wheel tire combo question. [Re: Black_Sheep] #3084672
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I just saw that the magnum 500 i have on my charger arent hub centric either. I didnt know that. But they havent ever given me any issue. I think ill be fine.

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Originally Posted by stumpy
What are you planning to put them on? The back spacing may not work. These are meant for roundy round dirt track racing not for The pot holes etc. you run across on the street. If you keep looking I'm sure you will find some black chrome wheels that are designed for street use.


No pot holes on a dirt track at all....,ever. Perfectly smooth surface. up

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Re: Another wheel tire combo question. [Re: Dcuda69] #3084690
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Originally Posted by Dcuda69
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What are you planning to put them on? The back spacing may not work. These are meant for roundy round dirt track racing not for The pot holes etc. you run across on the street. If you keep looking I'm sure you will find some black chrome wheels that are designed for street use.


No pot holes on a dirt track at all....,ever. Perfectly smooth surface. up


Entirely different kind of suspension and tire combo. But it is his car and if he is willing to trust those rims go for it.


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Originally Posted by stumpy
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What are you planning to put them on? The back spacing may not work. These are meant for roundy round dirt track racing not for The pot holes etc. you run across on the street. If you keep looking I'm sure you will find some black chrome wheels that are designed for street use.


No pot holes on a dirt track at all....,ever. Perfectly smooth surface. up


Entirely different kind of suspension and tire combo. But it is his car and if he is willing to trust those rims go for it.



Most likely not DOT approved because they don't have a "safety bead" that prevents the tire's bead from moving inward for instance if you hit a pothole so yeah if he wants to then you takes your chances, I wouldn't. And people always think those safety standards are just only for the person's vehicle and their safety and not for the innocent other drivers, passengers and pedestrians WHICH THEY ARE. Hit a pothole, break a bead seal, lose control, hit a school bus, yeah extreme but yeah what if, then how much did it really matter if you were running not DOT/FMVSS compliant components on your vehicle? Just saying.

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What are you planning to put them on? The back spacing may not work. These are meant for roundy round dirt track racing not for The pot holes etc. you run across on the street. If you keep looking I'm sure you will find some black chrome wheels that are designed for street use.


No pot holes on a dirt track at all....,ever. Perfectly smooth surface. up


Entirely different kind of suspension and tire combo. But it is his car and if he is willing to trust those rims go for it.



Most likely not DOT approved because they don't have a "safety bead" that prevents the tire's bead from moving inward for instance if you hit a pothole so yeah if he wants to then you takes your chances, I wouldn't. And people always think those safety standards are just only for the person's vehicle and their safety and not for the innocent other drivers, passengers and pedestrians WHICH THEY ARE. Hit a pothole, break a bead seal, lose control, hit a school bus, yeah extreme but yeah what if, then how much did it really matter if you were running not DOT/FMVSS compliant components on your vehicle? Just saying.


The 58 series has safety beads. And dirt track is huge in my area and those tracks are rough and their wheels take a pounding.

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Speedway has more info on the wheels, 58 series.
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Aero-58-104550-58-Series-15x10-Wheel-SP-5x4-5-BP-5-Inch-BS,92087.html

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Good to see that Black Sheep post - that's the wicked-cool car that came to mind.

Dirt track wheels are a consumable; they take a beating from everything, including other cars.
Back in my Sprint Car days, we replaced a barrel or two often.

I'm not sure that's black chrome on those wheels, but I didn't read the description.

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Originally Posted by topside
Good to see that Black Sheep post - that's the wicked-cool car that came to mind.

Dirt track wheels are a consumable; they take a beating from everything, including other cars.
Back in my Sprint Car days, we replaced a barrel or two often.

I'm not sure that's black chrome on those wheels, but I didn't read the description.


Yessir its black chrome. Alot diff looking than the normal chrome. I think im going to buy them. They do have a bead seat and yes they arent hub centric but most aftermarket wheels arent even my wheel vintiques mag 500s i just found out arent either. So i dont see a valid reason why not use them. I think they decent and differnt than what anyone else runs. If they dont look that great ill buy somthing else.

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The 58 series has safety beads. And dirt track is huge in my area and those tracks are rough and their wheels take a pounding.


Okay that's good but why don't they have a DOT approval?

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another thing to consider, the dirt track lug nut seat is 45 degrees, while all street wheels have a 60 degree lug nut seat.
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The 58 series has safety beads. And dirt track is huge in my area and those tracks are rough and their wheels take a pounding.


Okay that's good but why don't they have a DOT approval?


Im not really sure, but im not real concerned about it. From what i read is it supposedly costs ALOT of money just to get that approval. So maybe they dont feel the need for it, who knows. Im sure they hold up just as well as any steel wheel made by wheel vintiques. Says on there about street use is to how to properly balance them being lug centric. Even wheel vintiques seem cheaply built and there not hub centric either from the ones i seen and used. Its not like alot of the parts we use on these cars dont say not for street use , for example double pumper carbs specifically say race when most others say street,as well as exhaust components. And im sure ppl run racegas in their cars on the street when there not suposed to. Or open up a set of cutouts and or run slicks. I believe those steel wheels will be just fine. Especially the weight capability that it states. Ive seen what these type of wheels go through dirt track racing and those guys dont trash can them after every race, they take alot abuse. Im not racing my car everyday i drive it. And i certainly wont be driving it everyday either. Just to car cruises and mildly play around on occasion.

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