The Illinois Storm car has been found and is being updated to race again. It was not a real Hemi car, the HP2 badges were added on.

Sounds interesting and would improve list-quality: which is the source for this information?

Thanks.

EDIT: due to your hind I searched for „has been found“ infos and got hit at YouTube! Link below. The now owner Chuck@House of Mopars bought it 4yrs ago and unveiled it recently. Obviously, this is not a RL21H car, it is not even a 66, but a 67 Belvedere II HT 383/4spd/ 8-3/4 / red from factory. If I understood it correctly, the „Illinois Storm“ was created using this car in 1972 by „Joel“ and run with a tunnel-rammed 383, his brother then added the „HP2“ enblems.

So unless there was a predecessor based on a 66 car (which does not sound to me it was), this car is not countable for my RL21H6-registry anymore and we’re down to 68 cars.

At least list-quality improved, thanks again for hinding, @slantzilla!

Here is the YouTube link: https://youtu.be/z_E9a2XuTeY?feature=shared

First time I have seen the "Featherlight" name.

In 1966 a friend purchased a Hemi Belvedere II hardtop to race.

It had an undercoating and sound deadner delete option. You could tap the roof and it sounded like a tin can.

Is this the same as the Featherlight?

@340Cuda: sorry, only know from the "Featherlites" due to that same mentioned/linked article. Never heard of these cars before or after.

Stumbled across one more new car on facebook, unfortunately only captured these 2 pics but not the group they were posted in.

So here comes car #74 in my list: unknown44 is a Canadian dragracer and - if my eyes deciffered the door-lettering correctly - was run under the name of "Canadian Hemi Plymouth" by Ken Scott Motors LTD. Also I think I spot the "426" badge on the lower fenders, so it is a late car (non-HP²).

That particular photo was taken on April 30th 1966 during the Canadian National Superstock Championship at Mohawk. That RL21H6 is campaigned in class A/S, so it is a manual-transmission car.

if I check my list for canadian or Canada-affiliated cars in a darker colour (probably dark blue met.), this car really seems to be a new-to-the-list-car, because:


- This car is NOT the Ray Dupuis-car (#6 on my registry), as his was an automatic.

- NEITHER is it car #8 NOR #27, as those are manuals BUT early-HP²-cars.

Anyone of you gentlemen got more input on new car #74, preferebly some more history or even a VIN?

Thanks,
Toby

https://prairieauction.ca/Event/LotDetails/17860143/Lot-1003-1966-426-Hemi-Plymouth-Belvedere-1

Not sure if its on the list but it's for sale!

What a neat car. Too bad there's not a little more information on it. The round rivets on the VIN plate are a little suspicious in my opinion.

Thanks for hinding to RL21H61181428, @Droop69!

Yes, that is a car already in my list and has been first mentioned here in post #3085272.

Nonetheless, your post was relevant to me, as new/uptodate informations on this car are given plus quite a lot of photos and even a video, if one follows the auctions link you provided.

I agree with @IROC78, that the informations in the auction were quite a bit scarce to make a purchase-decision.

Obviously, this car has seen some day-2-mods, but I see positively that it reached quite a high price though: auction ended at around 57k plus 1k premium...all US-Dollars $, though both the auction and location of the car are in Canada.

That is the same price-range, the triple-black 4spd Hemi-GTX (driver condition, might have seen body damage on rear driver-side earlier in its life) reached, that was offered on BAT not so long ago (early this year or late last year). That this RL21H6 reached the same price-range is good to see...seems like these cars get some love now.

Too bad for me personally, that I could not take part in the auction, as I do not get notifications about new posts by moparts.org, so I have just discovered this lately. But at 58k$ it is a well payed car for what the photos/vid show me...IMHO.

Hello again Tobias. It looks like that auction was actually selling items in CAD, not USD, at least according to the auction website:

"8 % Buyer's Premium - All Prices Listed in CAD"

The 8% buyers fee wasn't too bad as far as auctions go, but a lot of the cars in this auction were essentially being sold with a reserve although not worded as such:

"SUBJECT TO OWNER APPROVAL - THE HIGHEST BID WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE OWNER AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE AUCTION"

I suspect the lack of information on the car led to the poor bidding results and that the owner probably rejected the high bid which in USD WAS $41,575. That had to be one of the poorest listings I have ever seen as far as information goes. They didn't even say if the car ran!

@IROC: oh, so it was in Canadian currency…completely missed that…thought, they have their own symbol for it €$£ like a Dollar-C instead of the US‘s Dollar-S.

Anyway, still agree that for a car in that price-range the given infos by the auction-company we’re poor. Also wondering, why the seller didn’t place it on eBay, but this local-auction-thing seem to be very common in North America.

Yes the website stated that all their listings were CAD$ although it took me 20 minutes of searching for it. On a side note I just happened to stumble across this today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBg585VAIBM&t=127s

It's crazy because as many times as I visited the auction listing while it was running I never saw this. And STILL no word as to it's mechanical condition, undercarriage condition etc. Unless I am missing something this may be the worst marketing of a classic car I have ever seen. They were more worried about putting music on their walk around video than actually telling us about the car whether it be in text or voice while shooting the video. I agree I think it would have done better on ebay. People could have at least interacted with the seller looking for answers to their questions.

I came across this car for sale, not sure if it is on the list as the ad doesn’t seem to list a VIN or much information at all unfortunately.

It does say it is a real Hemi car though.

Here is the link: https://johnscotticlassiccars.com/en/inventory/plymouth-belvedere-hemi-hp2-1966/996

Also, I have a question hopefully one of you can answer:

Were all of these 1966 Belvedere 2 door post Hemis made in either Michigan, or Missouri?
As all the VIN’s seem to list 1 (Lynch Road Detroit), or 7 (St. Louis) for the assembly plant.

@RTM76: welcome aboard and thanks for contributing.

To your questions:

- yes, that car is on my list already (#8). I am not sure if this is the same car a wheelchaired gentleman named Merit Pennington from FL owned (so Canadian dealer John Scotti was the buyer) or that FL-gentleman bought it from Canadian dealer John Scotti or if it is two different cars.

Anybody here knows that gentlemen from FL?

- yes, those two plants are the only ones the cars in my list came from, so I think it’s pretty safe to assume all RL21H6-cars came exclusively from either one plant.

Regards,
Toby

Thank you for the response.

1) So the car in the link I posted was made at the Lynch Road, Michigan plant, correct? As that is what it says for car #8 unless I misread.

2) It seems like that car in the link it still available for sale. So if the guy from Florida you mention did own it, it looks like that dealer did in fact buy it from him in some way I would assume. But, I gather from what you said that you are not completely sure if this is the car that the guy from Florida you mention even owned in the first place, correct? Guessing you never got a chance to get the VIN of his particular car, but it looked like this one?

Thanks again!

Oh, one other thing...not sure if you (or anyone here) would know though.

I see that one or two of these cars was raced in Canada.

1) I assume that these cars were made in the States at either the (Lynch Road) Michigan or St. Louis plants, not in Canada? I assume this is the case as all the cars on your list so far at least, were.

2) Were these cars originally sold here in the States, and then just brought across the boarder to race?

3) Or if these cars were originally sold in Canada, were they "Canadian spec" in some way? Or were they the same as the other cars sold here in the States? I know by this point the US/Canadian Auto Pact was up and running, and that "regular" 1966 Belvederes were basically identical, no matter if sold here in the States or in Canada. So I assume the same would go for these, much more limited cars.

Thanks!

Last I checked the John Scotti dealer had two nearly identical 66 Hemi Belvedere I's, one automatic and one 4 speed. I spoke with Claude Scotti several months back about the 4 speed car and he mentioned that it was the second time they had owned that car. Part of me thought it was too much of a coincidence that the same dealer had both these cars and that maybe they came from the same prior owner.

@Canada: non were manufactured in CDA, all made in US but as CDA-spec‘ed export-cars. What the specs were I have no idea, as the km/h-Speedo was introduced at a later time in CDA, but not in 66. But if it were an export-car built to to continental-Europe-specs, it would have had a km/h-Speedo, even in 66.

@which car is which: the colour-combination of drk.blue with blue interior was very common, so there are also many RL21H6‘s wearing that combo.

Reason I wondered if the Scotti-car is the FL-car is, that they both are also HP2‘s and 4speeds.

But the video I found of the FL-car is quite fresh (~6 months old) and the Scotti-car is up for sale much longer. So most probably two different cars. Which makes me courios which car of my list the FL-car is or if it is even a completely new one.

Thus would be nice to get a hold on anybody knowing the car/owner so one might get to know the VIN.

Here is the video of the FL-car I mentioned:

https://youtu.be/rtZIt-W_fGE?feature=shared