Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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09/29/22 12:43 PM
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Back in 2005, I bought a bend pack XT-XL 9000. I bought it from some outfit online where it was ridiculously cheap, about $2,300 bucks if I remember right including truck freight. I had them ship it to a truck terminal down in the city so I didn't have to try and unload it from a truck at my place. Then I went to the truck terminal with my open car trailer and had them set it on the trailer. When I got home I cut the banding off of it and with the help of one or two strong friends, we unloaded it one piece at a time and set it up. I have looked at the backyard buddy, as well as other lifts at shows. I really like the backyard buddy. If I was to buy another lift, I would not buy a bend pack, I would buy a backyard buddy. It seems much more stable and better designed. out of curiosity, why are you not liking the bend pak ? I had an hd-12 since 2005 ? or so and no complaints. the only issues I've had were due to lack of maintenance . It's pretty much seen daily use (not like a muffler shop) but has been used way more than a 'hobbyist lift" no real complaints other than parts that have been needed are a bit $$$ My bend pack has a tendency to sway a bit when the vehicle is raised up high and you put a bunch of side pressure on it. It kind of sways back and forth which is a little unnerving. I should note that it is not fastened to the floor, it is freestanding. But it is designed for that. I have a wheel kit so I can move it around. Also the safety latches to keep the car from falling if a cable breaks are each operated by an individual air cylinder, which is controlled by a single air switch. I have had problems when lowering it where one of the safety latches does not release all the way and then the vehicle starts coming down on three posts but not the other and goes out of level. I have to pay really close attention to make sure that doesn't happen or else it could collapse. There is no way for the operator to know if all the safety latch is released except to begin lowering the vehicle and see if it comes down level. When I looked at the backyard buddy, The vertical legs were square box tubes. The carriage rode up and down on tubes that fit tightly around the legs. I had them raise it up and I pushed on the side of it and it seemed like it is more stable against sway than the band pack that has three sided legs and internal sliders for the carriage. And the backyard buddy had a mechanical linkage going to each safety latch so that one of them could not stick without the operator feeling it on the control lever. Mine is bolted and I have never experienced a problem with the latches. I will look on mine but I believe the height of the latch plates are independently adjustable and should all engage at the same time. Only other thing I could think of is the spring loaded latch is not functioning properly. Whatever the issue is I would investigate and get it corrected as it is a definite safety issue that could have catastrophic consequences
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Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
[Re: TJP]
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09/29/22 06:56 PM
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I bought mine locally from Uresco. I ran out of room and had to start stacking Mopars in my garage. That's who I was going to buy from some year back, then got a deal on a used one from a friend of mine. They seem like a good bunch of folks. My bend pack has a tendency to sway a bit when the vehicle is raised up high and you put a bunch of side pressure on it. It kind of sways back and forth which is a little unnerving. I should note that it is not fastened to the floor, it is freestanding. But it is designed for that. I have a wheel kit so I can move it around. Also the safety latches to keep the car from falling if a cable breaks are each operated by an individual air cylinder, which is controlled by a single air switch. I have had problems when lowering it where one of the safety latches does not release all the way and then the vehicle starts coming down on three posts but not the other and goes out of level. I have to pay really close attention to make sure that doesn't happen or else it could collapse. There is no way for the operator to know if all the safety latch is released except to begin lowering the vehicle and see if it comes down level. When I looked at the backyard buddy, The vertical legs were square box tubes. The carriage rode up and down on tubes that fit tightly around the legs. I had them raise it up and I pushed on the side of it and it seemed like it is more stable against sway than the band pack that has three sided legs and internal sliders for the carriage. And the backyard buddy had a mechanical linkage going to each safety latch so that one of them could not stick without the operator feeling it on the control lever. Movement is scary to me. The Backyard Buddy was my favorite when I was shopping. Not at all cheap, but very nice. IMO, ALI certification should be a requirement for any lift sold.
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Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
[Re: TJP]
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09/29/22 08:02 PM
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not to be a problem on the OP's post but IMO, ALI certification should be a requirement for any lift sold. Here's a link to a video that explains things a little bit more VIDEO LINKY ON ALI CERTIFICATION I read the ALI site thoroughly. The problem I have is they only have one level of certification, which I assume is based on commercial, not consumer, use. The reason this is important it it means a consumer is likely over buying because the lift won't go through anywhere near as many cycles as it would in a commercial setting. It's a shame they don't have a consumer level of testing since people only using them for a hobby have no way of knowing the quality of a lift without paying a high price for a lift certified for commercial use.
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Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
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09/29/22 08:43 PM
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not to be a problem on the OP's post but IMO, ALI certification should be a requirement for any lift sold. Here's a link to a video that explains things a little bit more VIDEO LINKY ON ALI CERTIFICATION I read the ALI site thoroughly. The problem I have is they only have one level of certification, which I assume is based on commercial, not consumer, use. The reason this is important it it means a consumer is likely over buying because the lift won't go through anywhere near as many cycles as it would in a commercial setting. It's a shame they don't have a consumer level of testing since people only using them for a hobby have no way of knowing the quality of a lift without paying a high price for a lift certified for commercial use. Valid point, but when someone's life could be at stake I' say spend the $$. a 1000 or 1500.00 isn't worth it to me> I don't know what the certification costs but for some reason I don't think it's cheap but it's worth a premium to me. My first two lifts, when it was still a hobby for me, came from a company named Auto Lifters out of Wichita KS. Both lifts were made here and certified. Great company They could not compete with the overseas garbage so the owner said rather than lower his standards/cost he shut the business down.
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Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
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09/29/22 08:52 PM
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not to be a problem on the OP's post but IMO, ALI certification should be a requirement for any lift sold. Here's a link to a video that explains things a little bit more VIDEO LINKY ON ALI CERTIFICATION I read the ALI site thoroughly. The problem I have is they only have one level of certification, which I assume is based on commercial, not consumer, use. The reason this is important it it means a consumer is likely over buying because the lift won't go through anywhere near as many cycles as it would in a commercial setting. It's a shame they don't have a consumer level of testing since people only using them for a hobby have no way of knowing the quality of a lift without paying a high price for a lift certified for commercial use. Yeah with all the cheap chinese crap you can get these days it's too bad there's not some sort of minimum certification. So that you know what you're getting is actually safe but you're not paying a premium for commercial unit.
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Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
[Re: TJP]
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09/29/22 08:56 PM
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not to be a problem on the OP's post but IMO, ALI certification should be a requirement for any lift sold. Here's a link to a video that explains things a little bit more VIDEO LINKY ON ALI CERTIFICATION I read the ALI site thoroughly. The problem I have is they only have one level of certification, which I assume is based on commercial, not consumer, use. The reason this is important it it means a consumer is likely over buying because the lift won't go through anywhere near as many cycles as it would in a commercial setting. It's a shame they don't have a consumer level of testing since people only using them for a hobby have no way of knowing the quality of a lift without paying a high price for a lift certified for commercial use. Valid point, but when someone's life could be at stake I' say spend the $$. a 1000 or 1500.00 isn't worth it to me> And that's the quandary. I have a finite budget for my garage. I agree that the assurance of safety is worth the extra money, but if I spend another $2000 on a lift I'm going to have to give up on something else.
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Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
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09/30/22 06:21 AM
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Last night I sent an inquire to a local place that sells Forward lift, which are built by Rotary.
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Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
[Re: DUFFMAN]
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09/30/22 08:27 PM
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And that's the quandary. I have a finite budget for my garage. I agree that the assurance of safety is worth the extra money, but if I spend another $2000 on a lift I'm going to have to give up on something else. just make sure it's not you life as the 2k won't matter at that point nor will what you bought with it just trying to be helpful not a smart a-- Reminds me of years ago a buddy stopped by ona Sat. and said I just saw the best license plate frame yet! i said OK what'd say? He says get me a beer first. I hand him the beer: He proceeds to say "He who dies with the most toys, is DEAD". Whoa, that made me think a bit I almost stopped him at the comma and said that's older than you thinking he was going to say WINS.
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Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
[Re: Moparite]
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10/01/22 01:05 PM
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i just wished i had room for a lift ! when i replaced the roof on my garage, i had thought about raising it and adding a second story or a loft. that was the perfect time to do it, but like the dumazz that i am, i didn't do it. been kicking my a$$ ever since. [ my old man : "get a bag full'a quarters and back up to the a$$ kickin' machine !" ]
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Re: Where to buy a 4 post lift?
[Re: TJP]
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10/01/22 08:23 PM
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And that's the quandary. I have a finite budget for my garage. I agree that the assurance of safety is worth the extra money, but if I spend another $2000 on a lift I'm going to have to give up on something else. just make sure it's not you life as the 2k won't matter at that point nor will what you bought with it just trying to be helpful not a smart a-- If that' what it takes to be safe so be it. But I don't want to spend the money just for a sticker.
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