Re: Decent Ignition Modules
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08/22/22 04:15 PM
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I have had good luck with the Wells WVE 6H1062 sells for about $32, and has a (3) year warranty. My experience with the later Mopar Orange modules has not been good, but I still am running an older chrome Mopar module. In later years, most of these aftermarket modules are sourced from China and many are junk.. But always good to carry a spare in the glove box.. Just my $0.02....
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
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08/22/22 05:09 PM
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I stopped using the Mopar style garbage years ago.
Now I plug in the MSD 6AL (older analog, new digital MSD stuff is garbage as well) plugged into a recurved stock distributor. It has the advantages of a rev-limiter and you can plug stuff into it like 2 steps and a timing controller to retard timing with a dial.
The car always starts instantly.
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
[Re: Wheeler]
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08/23/22 02:05 AM
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I stated this within the HIRev 7500 thread About the Chinese junk out there
Anyways
Scour Swap Meets and EBay , you can still find NOS Chrysler ECUs and mid 70s / mid 80s Standard LX 101s when Standard Motor Products made them in the USA
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
[Re: Wheeler]
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08/23/22 09:53 AM
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. I am using the HR7500 on my Challenger and it has done well for over two years now. I was careful to use the coil they recommend. You can buy the HR7500 from JEGS. On my Charger I am using the FBO box and REALLY like it. Only been a couple of months but I am impressed. Again, I used their recommended coil and by-passed the ballast, and am using a Voltage Regulator with modern internals. For the FBO I bypassed the ballast by taking out the resistor from the back and substituting an 8 gage wire, using the same connectors, then I potted the back…so looks stock.
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
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08/23/22 01:10 PM
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i have a chrome box on the shelf i took out of my 38 plymouth coupe when i sold it back in 1986 or so, minus the 360/727 combo [E58 cop engine/transmission] it worked fantastic for over 10k miles in my coupe, but sitting on the shelf in a semi-upright position, the potting material started to melt out of it. has anyone re-potted these control boxes ? if so, what material did you use ? would filling the back side with high temperature silicon adhesive work for this purpose ?
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
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08/24/22 07:28 AM
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I've seen orange boxes listed for over $100 recently so I guess the crappy new boxes are helping someone out.
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
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08/24/22 01:17 PM
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I still have an orange box I bought back in 1992 with the conversion kit they sold. Its been in at least 6 different cars over the years and still going strong. Its the new ones that have the high failure rate. They use a TO-220 transistor instead of the HD TO-3. They have a dummy TO-3 mounted on them to deceive you. The TO-220 package handles much less current and im sure its the cause of all these failures. Some of those threads that Wheeler posted touch on this very subject Easy to spot Thats why i stated stick with the Factory ECUs with Chrysler Part #s stamped on them or Made In The USA Standard LX 101s
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
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08/24/22 08:36 PM
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Problem is no one makes the power transistor these boxes used to use, so they got redesigned to use something still being made, poorly redesigned that is.
I did some research into this a while back, there is (was?) a similar power transistor that could have been used, but it was more expensive. IIRC and it was a couple of years ago when I did the research, that transistor was something like $30 each from Mouser. Do you know what the part number was for the replacement? I have connections for obsolete components and may be able to find them
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
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08/24/22 08:52 PM
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Problem is no one makes the power transistor these boxes used to use, so they got redesigned to use something still being made, poorly redesigned that is.
I did some research into this a while back, there is (was?) a similar power transistor that could have been used, but it was more expensive. IIRC and it was a couple of years ago when I did the research, that transistor was something like $30 each from Mouser. Do you know what the part number was for the replacement? I have connections for obsolete components and may be able to find them Sorry, no I have forgotten what it was and since I don't run them in any of my rides the matter wasn't all that important to me. All I can say is that the original transistor was a Motorola MJ10012.
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
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08/24/22 09:32 PM
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That Motorola part # is all over EBay listings
RCA was original on many Factory part #s also
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Re: Decent Ignition Modules
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08/24/22 09:52 PM
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Interesting, I am now seeing them listed on Mouser, 160 qty minimum order though.
They aren't Motorola Brand though, MJ10012 is a industry part number, sort of light light bulb numbers.
As far as the Ebay listings, wonder where they came from? Someone clearing out old stock? When companies close or clean out their inventory electronic scrap dealers come in buy it and then resell. A very common practice i worked for one company that went from over 100,000 sq. ft. to 30,000. They literally threw hundreds of thousands $$ in dumpsters and had the hauled away. didn't even attempt to sell any of it. There were signs all over the company, "IF IN DOUBT, THROW IT OUT"
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