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How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questions #306602 05/03/09 04:42 PM 05/03/09 04:42 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	I had an issue of Mopar Action or Mopar Muscle (or something that went out of business for all I can recall) that detailed a sweet little valve body mod for the 727/904 transmissions. Does anyone recall this article? The mag had a purple 440+6 Challenger on the cover. Had to be back in the 86-89 timeframe. The mods which were basiclly drilling out (enlarged) a few spots on the seperator plate, bumping the line pressure a turn or two and tossing away one check ball worked great! I did several valve bodies back in the day and now can't locate the issue =(

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questions [Re: gdonovan] #306603 05/03/09 07:07 PM 05/03/09 07:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,017 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,017 Rio Linda, CA	You'll find those mods and a few more in this TCI kit instruction sheet: http://www.tciauto.com/Products/Instructions/instructions/220000_inst.htm The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questions [Re: John_Kunkel] #306604 05/04/09 03:45 AM 05/04/09 03:45 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Thanks for taking the time- I spent 3 hours yesterday looking for the old Mopar article and came up dry. I was sure I saved that issue! Gary

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questions [Re: gdonovan] #306605 05/04/09 05:00 AM 05/04/09 05:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Quote: Thanks for taking the time- I spent 3 hours yesterday looking for the old Mopar article and came up dry. I was sure I saved that issue! Gary I remember a magazine with a 71 Purple Challenger 6-pack 4spd. I don't remember if it was on the cover or just an article. I think it was MoPerformance. But there might be a Mopar Action/HP Mopar with a purple 6 pack 71 Challenger on the cover I remember too. Looking now....

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questions [Re: autoxcuda] #306606 05/04/09 05:14 AM 05/04/09 05:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Oppps, I thought it was a specifically a 71 Challenger 440-6.

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questions [Re: autoxcuda] #306607 05/04/09 05:32 AM 05/04/09 05:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Can't find it. My guess is that it's a MoPerformance/Chysler Car Enthusiest or Chrysler Power issue.

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: gdonovan] #306608 05/04/09 12:34 PM 05/04/09 12:34 PM
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RV2 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,011 Covington Georgia	It was High Performance MoPar, it had a purple 71 challenger in it and I think the trans article was by Billy Bellofatto. 5207076-magazinecover.jpg (78 downloads)

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: RV2] #306609 05/04/09 12:38 PM 05/04/09 12:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Quote: It was High Performance MoPar, it had a purple 71 challenger in it and I think the trans article was by Billy Bellofatto. You're the man I don't have a lot of pre 1989 HP Mopar issues.

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: RV2] #306610 05/04/09 04:11 PM 05/04/09 04:11 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: It was High Performance MoPar, it had a purple 71 challenger in it and I think the trans article was by Billy Bellofatto. Thats it! Any chance you can scan the article for me for my archives?

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: gdonovan] #306611 05/04/09 05:20 PM 05/04/09 05:20 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,202 California P polkat mopar addict
polkat mopar addict P Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,202 California	I'd be interested in that as well!

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: polkat] #306612 05/04/09 05:38 PM 05/04/09 05:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,011 Covington Georgia RV2 master
RV2 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,011 Covington Georgia	I can try scanning it but my scanner does not get along with me,If I do get it scanned should I email to you guys?

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: RV2] #306613 05/04/09 06:20 PM 05/04/09 06:20 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,286 Ft. Lauderdale, FL solarguy pro stock
solarguy pro stock Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,286 Ft. Lauderdale, FL	I'd like a copy too, please... gcoriginals@yahoo.com thanks

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: solarguy] #306614 05/04/09 06:41 PM 05/04/09 06:41 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,202 California P polkat mopar addict
polkat mopar addict P Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,202 California	Email is fine with me..... dtpolk@chiconet.com

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: gdonovan] #306615 05/04/09 06:50 PM 05/04/09 06:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,011 Covington Georgia RV2 master
RV2 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,011 Covington Georgia	So how's my memory?

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: RV2] #306616 05/04/09 06:55 PM 05/04/09 06:55 PM
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chargerron69 mopar Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 549 Chicagoland	those mods sound a lot like the transgo tf-2 shift kit upgrades. It works very well, my 4dr newport would bark the tires into 2nd at 55 mph with astock 400 2bbl after that kit was installed 67 Coronet 383 hogged out 906's 727 430 dana best 10.48 @126.80 1.47 60 on fogger same car pump gas 605 wedge 9.98 @ 138.42 1.50 60 on wore out 9 inch radial slick ss springs and frame connectors its got more in it!!! 72 Newport 2 door 400 727 85 Ram 440 4 speed O/D 3.54 dana

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: RV2] #306617 05/04/09 06:56 PM 05/04/09 06:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,286 Ft. Lauderdale, FL solarguy pro stock
solarguy pro stock Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,286 Ft. Lauderdale, FL	That looks like a good article, Thanks

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: RV2] #306618 05/04/09 08:19 PM 05/04/09 08:19 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: So how's my memory? Sweet! As good as mine but you still had the mag, lol! Thank you!!

Re: How good is your memory? 80's Mopar mag 727 questio [Re: gdonovan] #306619 05/04/09 11:17 PM 05/04/09 11:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,163 Canada -- Posts: 4034 -Registe... 5 5thAve Doesn't care what this says anyway
5thAve Doesn't care what this says anyway 5 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,163 Canada -- Posts: 4034 -Registe...	I think I have that article somewhere too. It sounds familiar anyway. I have a 727 that came from a friend of mine who did some of that stuff to it.

Re: Article questions! [Re: 5thAve] #306620 05/05/09 01:46 PM 05/05/09 01:46 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,202 California P polkat mopar addict
polkat mopar addict P Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,202 California	Nice article. Help me be clear about a few things. In picture 5 the accumulator spring is discarded. Nothing replaces it? In picture 10 I can't see exactly what ball is discarded? Is he talking about where the cup and spring are shown? Finally in picture 11 I assume the gauge is made because you want the spring to end up at exactly 1-9/32"? Has anyone actually done these specific mods? Thanks!

Re: Article questions! [Re: polkat] #306621 05/05/09 01:57 PM 05/05/09 01:57 PM
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70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	the accumulator spring is removed and the accumulator is block with a 3 inch rod about 1/2 inch in diameter... Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Article questions! [Re: polkat] #306622 05/05/09 03:18 PM 05/05/09 03:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: Has anyone actually done these specific mods? Thanks! I did back in late 80's/early 90s, they worked great.

Re: Article questions! [Re: polkat] #306623 05/05/09 03:21 PM 05/05/09 03:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,017 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,017 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: Nice article. Help me be clear about a few things. In picture 5 the accumulator spring is discarded. Nothing replaces it? If you're not going to use a blocker rod there is no reason to toss the spring, urban myth says the spring cushions the 1-2 shift but it simply isn't true. Quote: In picture 10 I can't see exactly what ball is discarded? Is he talking about where the cup and spring are shown? All of the 1/4" balls are located in canoe shaped tubs except one, it sits in a "D" shaped pocket...this is the one that can be left out. Quote: Finally in picture 11 I assume the gauge is made because you want the spring to end up at exactly 1-9/32"? A 6" steel rule can be used to set the spring retainer height, all of these mods are illustrated clearly in the TCI instruction page I posted earlier. Quote: Has anyone actually done these specific mods? Thanks! Nothing new here, the mods are as old as the 727. Unfortunately some of these home-spun mods actually work against each other in certain operating modes, you're much better off to invest in a quality reprogramming kit like the TF-2 where the mods compliment each other instead of vice versa. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Article questions! [Re: 70AARcuda] #306624 05/05/09 03:22 PM 05/05/09 03:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,103 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,103 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: the accumulator spring is removed and the accumulator is block with a 3 inch rod about 1/2 inch in diameter... That's what you do but it makes for an obnoxious shift , a filing rattling shift is not necessarily a GOOD shift, I'd leave the spring in .

Re: Article questions! [Re: JohnRR] #306625 05/06/09 09:51 PM 05/06/09 09:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Trans is in car run on stands, here is what I ended up doing. 1) 5 clutches front drum, .055-.065 clearance 2) One hole drilled out to 3/16 3) One check ball chucked, didn't need to remove the other, already missing on '74 4) Left the accumulator spring in. 5) line pressure at 1" + 9/32" 6) Rear band, 4 turns from 72 inch pounds, front 1.75 turns. I'll let you know how it shifts tomorrow after a road test, I'm beat. Runs fine on the stands.

Re: Article questions! [Re: gdonovan] #306626 05/06/09 11:31 PM 05/06/09 11:31 PM
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demon440 pro stock D Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,414 Stow ,Ohio	I did a combo of these mods and the T2 kit. Yes it shifts very hard if not on the gas. I can put it in any gear at any speed. Also mine won't shift until I shift it.

Re: Article questions! [Re: demon440] #306627 05/07/09 08:43 AM 05/07/09 08:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,103 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,103 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: I did a combo of these mods and the T2 kit. Yes it shifts very hard if not on the gas. I can put it in any gear at any speed. Also mine won't shift until I shift it. You don't want to shift BACK to first at any speed ...

Re: Article questions! [Re: JohnRR] #306628 05/07/09 07:14 PM 05/07/09 07:14 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan OP I Live Here
gdonovan OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Trans shifts firm but not rude, very pleased with the results. Kickdown is prompt, light throttle shifts are quick and precise with WOT being a snappy, firm shift without beating the diff.

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