Re: Ian and Bob Ashton's AMC damaged in Power Tour
[Re: mopars4ever]
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06/22/22 11:43 AM
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From what I could gather from the video was they were at a Shell station and there was a big traffic jam of mostly Power Tour participants on the road the gas station was on. with cops directing traffic at a light or stop sign down the road. There must have been a delay between when the truck driver waved and the time the line of cars started moving after the cops started directing the traffic through the intersection, and the vehicles backed up were accelerating. They started to pull out, the truck had started to get some momentum going, and "boom". I know from experience (and I have many decades of it living in the suburbs of Chicago with the congested roads here) that even if it looks like someone is going to let me in from pulling into a line of traffic from a side street or parking lot, to keep my head on a swivel, I look right for the cars to start moving, and as the "domino effect" approaches the car in front of me and I know it are about to start moving, I look to my left to make sure the car or truck I thought was going to let me in is really going to let me in! You have to keep your head on a swivel or else you will get hit someday. Sometimes you have to be aggressive to butt in or else risk sitting there forever, but still you nudge forward trying to force the driver in the line to your left to make space, and if they decide to be an a-hole that doesn't want to let you in, "gotta know when to fold em" and not push it. Whatever the case it sucks about the Hornet, I worry more every year when I take my vintage rides out that I'm going to get run into. I am always cautious but put my defensive driving techniques into overdrive when in a old ride! I realized after I bought my Magnum last year, if it ever gets tagged, I don't know if it would even be possible to find the parts to repair it!
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Re: Ian and Bob Ashton's AMC damaged in Power Tour
[Re: Mastershake340]
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06/22/22 11:57 AM
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1) glad everyone is ok 2) sucks about the car 3) 100% the fault of the driver of the Hornet failing to yield to traffic that had the right of way, based on the description that driver provided of what happened, and the location of the Hornet on the parking lot apron
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Re: Ian and Bob Ashton's AMC damaged in Power Tour
[Re: mopars4ever]
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06/22/22 12:47 PM
06/22/22 12:47 PM
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My thought is waving could mean a couple of things. The truck driver was probably waving to indicate cool car or something. Not signaling to go ahead. That sucks though. No, it was a cop waving, not the truck driver. And they have all the parts to fix the car.
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Re: Ian and Bob Ashton's AMC damaged in Power Tour
[Re: not_a_charger]
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06/22/22 12:49 PM
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1) glad everyone is ok 2) sucks about the car 3) 100% the fault of the driver of the Hornet failing to yield to traffic that had the right of way, based on the description that driver provided of what happened, and the location of the Hornet on the parking lot apron It was not the drivers fault, it was a cop who was controlling the traffic and was waving the Hornet and Power Tour group through, and the dump truck driver just drove through the intersection. The dump truck driver didn't even realize he hit the Hornet and kept on going. The cops had to chase him down.
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Re: Ian and Bob Ashton's AMC damaged in Power Tour
[Re: Devil]
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06/22/22 03:39 PM
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1) glad everyone is ok 2) sucks about the car 3) 100% the fault of the driver of the Hornet failing to yield to traffic that had the right of way, based on the description that driver provided of what happened, and the location of the Hornet on the parking lot apron It was not the drivers fault, it was a cop who was controlling the traffic and was waving the Hornet and Power Tour group through, and the dump truck driver just drove through the intersection. The dump truck driver didn't even realize he hit the Hornet and kept on going. The cops had to chase him down. That makes sense. Thanks for the additional info. As a former road department worker, I can vouch for the fact that if I am directing traffic in an official capacity, and you don't follow my instructions, you can be cited.
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Re: Ian and Bob Ashton's AMC damaged in Power Tour
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06/23/22 12:37 AM
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Oh man!! That sucks. I love his car - I'd love to have the hood for mine! Never met the owner in person, but we've kibbutzed back and forth from time to time. Glad to hear he solved his transmission issues. I don't know what I would do if my own Hornet got hit (again). 20 years ago, it was almost no big deal finding parts. Today, we AMC folks have to keep our own backstock of parts just because there's almost nothing left out there. Even the big parts suppliers like Moog are not making parts for our cars anymore. My own Hornet has the fabled "factory approved" fiberglass front fenders now. I lucked-out massively finding a decent pair. If one got damaged or destroyed - there'd be no way I could ever find another set. They are literally THE "Hen's Teeth" of AMC parts. I'm ashamed to admit - this is half the reason I don't take my toys out to play anymore. Sure, any Chevelle or Mustang gets whacked by some idiot; a phone call to AMD later and they've got parts on the way. I get whacked, my insurance agent is liable to cut me another cheque for $3200 bucks and tell me to have a nice day. *sigh*
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Re: Ian and Bob Ashton's AMC damaged in Power Tour
[Re: Mastershake340]
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06/23/22 08:53 AM
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From what I could gather from the video was they were at a Shell station and there was a big traffic jam of mostly Power Tour participants on the road the gas station was on. with cops directing traffic at a light or stop sign down the road. There must have been a delay between when the truck driver waved and the time the line of cars started moving after the cops started directing the traffic through the intersection, and the vehicles backed up were accelerating. They started to pull out, the truck had started to get some momentum going, and "boom". I know from experience (and I have many decades of it living in the suburbs of Chicago with the congested roads here) that even if it looks like someone is going to let me in from pulling into a line of traffic from a side street or parking lot, to keep my head on a swivel, I look right for the cars to start moving, and as the "domino effect" approaches the car in front of me and I know it are about to start moving, I look to my left to make sure the car or truck I thought was going to let me in is really going to let me in! You have to keep your head on a swivel or else you will get hit someday. Sometimes you have to be aggressive to butt in or else risk sitting there forever, but still you nudge forward trying to force the driver in the line to your left to make space, and if they decide to be an a-hole that doesn't want to let you in, "gotta know when to fold em" and not push it. Whatever the case it sucks about the Hornet, I worry more every year when I take my vintage rides out that I'm going to get run into. I am always cautious but put my defensive driving techniques into overdrive when in a old ride! I realized after I bought my Magnum last year, if it ever gets tagged, I don't know if it would even be possible to find the parts to repair it! That is exactly why I sold my project Superbird. Exact same reasoning.
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Re: Ian and Bob Ashton's AMC damaged in Power Tour
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06/23/22 09:22 AM
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From what I could gather from the video was they were at a Shell station and there was a big traffic jam of mostly Power Tour participants on the road the gas station was on. with cops directing traffic at a light or stop sign down the road. There must have been a delay between when the truck driver waved and the time the line of cars started moving after the cops started directing the traffic through the intersection, and the vehicles backed up were accelerating. They started to pull out, the truck had started to get some momentum going, and "boom". I know from experience (and I have many decades of it living in the suburbs of Chicago with the congested roads here) that even if it looks like someone is going to let me in from pulling into a line of traffic from a side street or parking lot, to keep my head on a swivel, I look right for the cars to start moving, and as the "domino effect" approaches the car in front of me and I know it are about to start moving, I look to my left to make sure the car or truck I thought was going to let me in is really going to let me in! You have to keep your head on a swivel or else you will get hit someday. Sometimes you have to be aggressive to butt in or else risk sitting there forever, but still you nudge forward trying to force the driver in the line to your left to make space, and if they decide to be an a-hole that doesn't want to let you in, "gotta know when to fold em" and not push it. Whatever the case it sucks about the Hornet, I worry more every year when I take my vintage rides out that I'm going to get run into. I am always cautious but put my defensive driving techniques into overdrive when in a old ride! I realized after I bought my Magnum last year, if it ever gets tagged, I don't know if it would even be possible to find the parts to repair it! That is exactly why I sold my project Superbird. Exact same reasoning. I was brake checked in my duster this weekend, by a deer crossing the road. It's not just bad drivers around here. I thought I was sitting in a dead car but got lucky. It's insured and isn't rare to begin with though.
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Re: Ian and Bob Ashton's AMC damaged in Power Tour
[Re: DrCharles]
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06/25/22 09:35 PM
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