Re: anti roll bar or sway bar
[Re: dragon]
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06/23/22 11:54 AM
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I don't know how much pressure they have. I don't know anyone that has broke anything. I'm not smart enough to know how they work, but they work amazingly well. The biggest ones look the sexiest, but they're expensive.
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Re: anti roll bar or sway bar
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06/23/22 12:41 PM
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I have one on my Challenger. There is not enough pressure to break brackets or anything during launches in most cases.
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Re: anti roll bar or sway bar
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06/23/22 05:35 PM
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I made this bar out of mild steel 13/8 x . 125 wall. Twisted it in the first hit. 11.17 starting line ratio, 860 hp,, 4.56 gears and 33x15x15 slicks. I went to 1 3/4 x .134 wall tube, no problem. It is all about leverage and torque. Combine too much of both, and anything can bend or break.
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Re: anti roll bar or sway bar
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06/24/22 06:44 AM
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Just out of interest, Super Stock guys aren't allowed to run aftermarket ARB's so usually run the H/D stock anti sway stuff on the rear. They don't have any issues, even when using them in conjunction with Caltrac bars, which induce a lot of rise and axle rotation.
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Re: anti roll bar or sway bar
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I broke the bar on my anti roll due to it being a bit small on dia... I replaced it with a larger bar and its been perfect since.... like Greg said.. add enough torque and things can break.. you have very little load sitting at the line until you hit the pedal
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Re: anti roll bar or sway bar
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06/25/22 08:27 AM
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Shouldn't be any preload or pressure on an anti roll bar in a 4 link setup if it is right. If anything is breaking might be something else wrong. Preload with the 4 link and set the anti roll to be zero preload at race weight with driver in car.
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Re: anti roll bar or sway bar
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Shouldn't be any preload or pressure on an anti roll bar in a 4 link setup if it is right. If anything is breaking might be something else wrong. Preload with the 4 link and set the anti roll to be zero preload at race weight with driver in car. This is close to how mine is set up. With zero preload, I wound my right-hand side down two turns, which made a huge difference to how flat the car now launches.
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Re: anti roll bar or sway bar
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[quote=moparacer]Shouldn't be any preload or pressure on an anti roll bar in a 4 link setup if it is right. If anything is breaking might be something else wrong. Preload with the 4 link and set the anti roll to be zero preload at race weight with driver in car. [ /quote] Yes, this is how we sent mine up with me in the car, at race weight, with both bottles in the trunk and all my gear in my lap as my buddies adjust the heims until all bolts slip in and out of the holes so everything is with no preload. Car leaves hard, straight and level every time.
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Re: anti roll bar or sway bar
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06/27/22 09:25 AM
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This picture shows my dart before anti roll install, 30 inch ladderbars. At one point the settings were so far out of whack it would seperate on the left rear violently, run out of shock travel and pull the left slick clean up off the track! It happened when the front mount was close to the neutral line. It says a lot about how flexible ladderbars can be, and how much an anti roll is needed in SOME situations.
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