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TA Power Steering Pump #3051529
06/18/22 03:38 PM
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Ok, so how do I tell if the Federal Power Steering pump I have is the correct pump for a TA with Quick Ratio Steering.
I have a Federal pump but not sure about the correct pressure to work with a TA steering Box
The Part # in the book shows a 3004799. What casting # number on the pump to tell if it's for a TA.
Bob


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Re: TA Power Steering Pump [Re: VCODE] #3051568
06/18/22 07:10 PM
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Bob, I don’t think there are any external differences between the various applications for Federal p/s pumps. The casting numbers are the same. I think they were set up for the required application via the internal pressure valve. I’m guessing they were identified via external paint daubs. For my quick ratio T/A I tried to find an original pump out of a 70-71 C-body, since they had the same pressure setting. I never found one though and ended up paying through the wazoo for an NOS pump. Probably not worth the trouble and $$$, but at this point in my resto what’s a few more hundred ollars😂

https://www.hiltopautoparts.com/product/nos-mopar-power-steering-pump-1969-71-c-e-body-models/

Re: TA Power Steering Pump [Re: floyd] #3051636
06/19/22 02:10 AM
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Floyd is correct. I was able to find one by accident from a TA. Dragon slayer has done some research on this and may have pictures of the correct valve for the c body and TA.

Re: TA Power Steering Pump [Re: fastmark] #3051641
06/19/22 06:51 AM
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Ok. Someone posted an answer on for b bodies only to your question. He included pressures for each application. I was remembering that the c body and TA pump shared the same pressure and part ͏N͏o. I don’t have my parts book here at home. Do they have different valves or just a valve that is adjusted for the pressure? In other words, can you take the valve out and see the difference?

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Re: TA Power Steering Pump [Re: fastmark] #3051652
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I would have to find my hand written notes but I would think the best way to figure it out would be setting up with a pressure gage and testing pumps. My very old posting talked to the various # and stamps on the pumps, but no one could provide any decoding.

The Valve is custom fit to the pump body. Supposedly your not suppose to swap them by tech documents. When I was doing this I had a pile of pumps to sort through.
Here is pump data from one that I rebuilt and retained as a spare for my car.

8D8 8 B 2591C
1.387” Short Valve, .974” spring, and 4 .060” Shims

There were differences in valve length, spring and # of shims. A rebuilder would be able to modifiy to the pressure needs of the car. Could anyone decifier 8D8 8 B? Is 2591C a date code and shift, probably. Could some of the pumps I look at have additional stamping from a rebuilder? Possibly.

I know the charger hemi guys have assembly prints for the cars, does some one have assembly prints for the TA/AAR. If so, does the sheet for PS show any notes that could help with paint mark, stamp code?




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Re: TA Power Steering Pump [Re: dragon slayer] #3051661
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Thanks for the great info. Now to see if I can pressure test my pump to see what pressure it is putting out.
Bob


Mom & Dad let me buy a brand new 70 Challenger R/T 440 Six-Pack Super Trac Pack when I was 17

(Robert what is a 440 Six-Pack)






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