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$300 million Chrysler/Stellantis fine #3047973
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Page B3 of Sunday Wall Street Journals
has article saying Chrysler admits its 2014-2016 Ram and JeepGrand Cherokee vehicle computers
had software that “cheated” on emissions.
Chrysler stated “no additional recalls needed” with this fine.

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Re: $300 million Chrysler/Stellantis fine [Re: 360view] #3047975
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Be very careful. This conversation will end up in the non-moderated section shortly. As a nation, we are equally concerned about how many "emissions" come out of a cow.


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Re: $300 million Chrysler/Stellantis fine [Re: 360view] #3048011
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Re: $300 million Chrysler/Stellantis fine [Re: oldjonny] #3048028
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Originally Posted by oldjonny
Be very careful. This conversation will end up in the non-moderated section shortly. As a nation, we are equally concerned about how many "emissions" come out of a cow.

Then it's probably not a good idea to bring up the fact that ethanol fuel is more harmful to the environment that straight gasoline

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Re: $300 million Chrysler/Stellantis fine [Re: 360view] #3048032
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Originally Posted by 360view
this may chiefly be related to the EcoDiesel models

https://www.autonews.com/automakers...ay-300m-settle-us-diesel-emissions-probe


The fine surely is more than the company made on those relatively few vehicles


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...or that there's more politics and investment potential than science backing it ?

Re: $300 million Chrysler/Stellantis fine [Re: VL21] #3048084
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Originally Posted by VL21
Originally Posted by 360view
this may chiefly be related to the EcoDiesel models

https://www.autonews.com/automakers...ay-300m-settle-us-diesel-emissions-probe


The fine surely is more than the company made on those relatively few vehicles


I agree.

Stockholders probably lost multiple thousands of $ per engine on those VM Motori diesels with this fine plus warranty costs.
Vehicle owners lost on resale value.
The MPG gain nearly wiped out by added cost of ULSD

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Re: $300 million Chrysler/Stellantis fine [Re: 360view] #3048138
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Originally Posted by 360view

I agree.

Stockholders probably lost multiple thousands of $ per engine on those VM Motori diesels with this fine plus warranty costs.
Vehicle owners lost on resale value.
The MPG gain nearly wiped out by added cost of ULSD


That is the sad part and a portion of the fine should got to those vehicle owners IMO. And when I say portion, I am not saying 200.00. I am saying whatever their loss was/is. If there's money left over, then let the fed's keep it, if not, Divide it up equally amongst the poor sob's that got stuck by buying the POS. twocents beer

Re: $300 million Chrysler/Stellantis fine [Re: topside] #3048139
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Originally Posted by topside
...or that there's more politics and investment potential than science backing it ?


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Once of my friends just bought a new Jeep with the EcoDiesel. Loves it. His previous ride was a Ram with the EcoDiesel. Loved it too. shruggy


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