The natural flow of the Colorado river should be around 20,000 cubic feet per second
The Columbia river dumps 265,000 cubic feet per second of fresh water into the ocean! Over 10 times what the un-interrupted flow of the Colorado should be!
My idea is the best and everyone else's is terrible! (just kidding) but honestly they do not need to pump much, just dump a small portion of the Columbia into a pipe near Portland, lay 1000 miles of pipe on the ocean floor to LA with no tunneling needed and very minimal disturbance to any ecosystems and if there is a leak big stinking deal as that fresh water was just about to end up in the ocean anyhow. The only pumping needed would be to pump it out of the southern end of the pipe into the LA water plant or a reservoir or something. If you try to get it from the other side of the Rockies you will need at least 1500 miles of pipe, drilling through mountains and under or over roads, securing right of ways, pumping it up hill several thousand feet takes a lot of energy, that's how we make so much energy damming it up and letting it fall a couple hundred feet. This plan frees up the portion of Colorado river water going to southern California cities so Phoenix and Vegas can have more, heck we could probably get Mexico to chip in some of the cost if we let some more of the Colorado flow into Mexico.
I'm fine with someone thinking of it first but I did come up with it on my own when I saw the columbia river outlet in person back in 2013 when I went to portland for a 24 hours of lemons race, I though my goodness that is a lotawata dumping in the ocean, they should pipe it down to the dessert.
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I've seen the Columbia River and it is huge. More like the Mississippi and the Missouri River. Not the little drainage ditch we call the Colorado River. Just amazes me that over 30 million people rely on that little trickle. What ever they do is going to require buttloads of money.
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I've seen the Columbia River and it is huge. More like the Mississippi and the Missouri River. Not the little drainage ditch we call the Colorado River. Just amazes me that over 30 million people rely on that little trickle. What ever they do is going to require buttloads of money.
Everyday we waste money on pet projects. Let’s spend some on our country because we all would benefit.
Any farther comments from me would move this topic to the unmoderated section. I kind of wish it would be moved there, I have a lot of stuff I would like to comment on, but I will not be the guy that gets it moved.
I've seen the Columbia River and it is huge. More like the Mississippi and the Missouri River. Not the little drainage ditch we call the Colorado River. Just amazes me that over 30 million people rely on that little trickle. What ever they do is going to require buttloads of money.
I had not pondered anything but diverting Missouri River water to the Colorado Watershed.
Assuming you need at least 200 feet of elevation drop to avoid pumping, at what spot is one of the many rivers of the Columbia River Watershed 200 feet above either Lake Powell or Lake Mead’s elevation?
Perhaps the Northern section of a Western USA water diversion should be a “Y” with one leg running to the Columbia watershed, and another leg running to the Missouri watershed.
Thinking again about rock aquifers underground that already exist due to nature, one leg of the Y should run to a rock aquifer that can be fed from the Columbia and the other leg of the Y should run to a rock aquifer that can be fed from the Missouri.
Aquifer water reduces the chances of the Colorado getting unwanted life, like the Chinese Carp, etc.
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#3038462 04/30/2212:11 PM04/30/2212:11 PM
Most of the Columbia river water talk is about a pipeline.it would have to be huge, would cost many billions, and would involve hundreds of lawsuits. Theoretically possible, not so sure that it’s practically possible.
I live on the Naches River, which drains into the Yakima River, which drains into the Columbia. So if they build the pipeline I could theoretically toss a rubber duck out my backyard and it would go to some farmer’s field in California!
There was talk about piping Columbia River water through a pipe in the Pacific Ocean to SO CA back in the 1970s, to many environmentalists started screaming and protesting and threatening lawsuits so it got drop. I have to cross the Columbia River to go to Washington to visit family or go racing up there, it is big and carries a lot of water into the ocean I'm not sure how much of the water in the Columbia drains out of Canada, I know a lot of the water in the Columbia drains out of Idaho, Washington and Oregon. The Snake River Gorge reminds me of the Grand Canyon, not as long or probably not as deep either The power of water flowing
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#3039234 05/03/2212:33 AM05/03/2212:33 AM
Anyone ever check out molten salt solar installations? For generating power it's a stupid idea, but I wonder if the same principal could be used for desalination. Boil salt water with concentrated sun light. Not like we don't have deserts right on the ocean.
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#3043620 05/19/2203:00 PM05/19/2203:00 PM
Anyone ever check out molten salt solar installations? For generating power it's a stupid idea, but I wonder if the same principal could be used for desalination. Boil salt water with concentrated sun light. Not like we don't have deserts right on the ocean.
Environmentalist are already pissed about that type of facility. Birds fly through the "hot zone" and get roasted in flight.
Anyone ever check out molten salt solar installations? For generating power it's a stupid idea, but I wonder if the same principal could be used for desalination. Boil salt water with concentrated sun light. Not like we don't have deserts right on the ocean.
Environmentalist are already pissed about that type of facility. Birds fly through the "hot zone" and get roasted in flight.
Kinda like getting killed by windmills, only different. Lol
Anyone ever check out molten salt solar installations? For generating power it's a stupid idea, but I wonder if the same principal could be used for desalination. Boil salt water with concentrated sun light. Not like we don't have deserts right on the ocean.
Environmentalist are already pissed about that type of facility. Birds fly through the "hot zone" and get roasted in flight.
Kinda like getting killed by windmills, only different. Lol
Yep... everything has a potentially inherent hazard. Youtube, I think, has some videos of cooking birds in flight...