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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: theraif]
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03/14/22 01:49 PM
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Biggest things are rust, as said parts availability, and can you work on it yourself ??? I just bought a 98 Ram with 174k , just broken in , and I had bought one a number of years ago with 328k .. it was pretty well used up but did the job. I was looking at a 2000 Ram with 357k miles but it didn't pan out.
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: JohnRR]
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03/14/22 02:12 PM
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Biggest things are rust, as said parts availability, and can you work on it yourself ??? I just bought a 98 Ram with 174k , just broken in , and I had bought one a number of years ago with 328k .. it was pretty well used up but did the job. I was looking at a 2000 Ram with 357k miles but it didn't pan out.  For the most part rust is the decider and for me a no brainer to buy a Southwest NO RUST high miler even with interior fade or issues. A high mile rust belt northeast vehicle is usually not as good a purchase as a Southwest sunbelt vehicle with even twice the milage. My GTX came from El Paso, TX and had over 90k on it with an interior that was bad but not a bit of RUST and all original sheet metal. Even only a few year old vehicles in the El Paso have six figure odometers that I've looked at and at first it seemed surprising but then my friend reminded me he travels nearly 80 miles a day back and forth to work six days a week just in El Paso. Some parts of the country high milers are the norm now and not that big of an issue......salt, wet weather and short daily trips well most of us no the toll that takes on our vehicles 
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: theraif]
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03/14/22 02:35 PM
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I bought new, and drove a 2006 Magnum with the 3.5 v6 for 270,000 miles before selling it. The guy that bought it 5 years ago is still daily driving it. Brakes, tires, regular maintenance items were really the only stuff I ever did to the car.
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: 19swinger70]
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03/14/22 02:57 PM
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As with anything, you have to totally assess the whole package . . . I still have my 2006 Magnum RT AWD, with 230k km (143k miles), have always done routine maintenance, including minor rust repair in the wheel arches on the back 1/4s. I know the shop I take it to, for things I can't/won't do, would totally back up the fact that it is still in great condition. Can anyone say how long or good a car will be ?? . . . look at the maintenance history, condition, etc and decide. I would rather pay a bit more for high mileage vehicle I would want, that I have seen the maintenance history, etc.
In the current market conditions, you still have to do your homework on that vehicle you want/need - what were the weak points/strong points, etc, how was it maintained ? How does it present ? Do you feel good about the "deal" ??
On the "parts front" . . . lots of parts available on RockAuto and other places . . . and if it's a platform that has been around for a while (like LX), then there should be parts supply for it, well into the future (hopefully !)
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: a12rag]
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03/14/22 03:30 PM
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Miles on a car is a terrible way to judge a cars condition, most of the best cars I have owned have very high miles. I just bought an 03 Honda pilot on tuesday for my wife with 344,000 miles that honestly runs and drives like new, no leaks, the leather interior is very nice even the drivers seat $800 i'm into it. Another was a 95 Maxima I bought her in 03 for $1500 with 327,000 miles, I eventually sold it at 400,000 and it was like new except a lot of tiny rock chips on the front bumper and the only thing I ever had to do to it was a water pump. I bought a 2011 ram back in 2017 with 300,000 and it only needed a cam when I bought it for almost nothing and again it was like new, even the bearings in the engine looked great.
I have 2 2009 ram 1500s right now one has 140,000 and is trashed the other has 250,000 and is really nice, if I was to sell them I know for a fact someone would pay me more for the one with lower miles just because it has lower miles.
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: cudaman1969]
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03/14/22 08:43 PM
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I just bought a 2015 3500 regular cab single wheel with 267K miles on it and immediately took it on three trips with a total of 12,625 miles and had no issues. Before I bought it the dealer put new tires, new brakes, new water pump and radiator, so I was pretty sure it would be OK and it was. Just took it in for an oil and fuel filter change, and forgot how much they charge at the stealerships!  The only thing I found out that didn't work was the A/C, $450 later it is blowing cold, but that was one expense I wasn't counting on until I got to Florida last week and it was 85 degrees and the A/C did not work! Tool old for that. My 2015 5.7 gas 4x4 just turned 327K with no engine issues, can't say the same for the trans, but I am the transaster man... 
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: Rhinodart]
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03/15/22 11:05 AM
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the 95 caravan [3.3 engine] i had went 320+k before the body fell off. and the 2000 caravan [3.0 engine] went over 200k before the same fate befell it. both engines were never opened up, other than belts and idlers. the 3.3 had a water pump replaced. and believe it or not, the 3.0 DIDN'T BURN OIL ! i put a shift kit in both of these buss's transmissions, so i had no issues with those, other than an input or output sensor on the 2000. [i forget which it was]. the 99 i drive now came from arazona, so being rust free with a broken transaxle at 140k, it was a steal at $400.00. i replaced the transaxle [plus the axles and wheel bearings while i was in there] and it has been trouble free since purchase back in 2014. i have a local shop oil the snot out of it before winter, and i drilled all kinds of extra holes in the doors, gate, body, etc, plus all the plugs in the body and rockers come out so oil is pumped every place we can get to. it marks it's "territory" every where it parks in warm weather, as the oil tends to "drip a little".  i also have my other two at my buddy's small junkyard for parts if i need any. i also have small parts on the shelf, here, plus rock auto lists tons of stuff for it if i ever need something i don't have. 
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: moparx]
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03/15/22 11:31 AM
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the 95 caravan [3.3 engine] i had went 320+k before the body fell off. and the 2000 caravan [3.0 engine] went over 200k before the same fate befell it. both engines were never opened up, other than belts and idlers. the 3.3 had a water pump replaced. and believe it or not, the 3.0 DIDN'T BURN OIL ! i put a shift kit in both of these buss's transmissions, so i had no issues with those, other than an input or output sensor on the 2000. [i forget which it was]. the 99 i drive now came from arazona, so being rust free with a broken transaxle at 140k, it was a steal at $400.00. i replaced the transaxle [plus the axles and wheel bearings while i was in there] and it has been trouble free since purchase back in 2014. i have a local shop oil the snot out of it before winter, and i drilled all kinds of extra holes in the doors, gate, body, etc, plus all the plugs in the body and rockers come out so oil is pumped every place we can get to. it marks it's "territory" every where it parks in warm weather, as the oil tends to "drip a little". i also have my other two at my buddy's small junkyard for parts if i need any. i also have small parts on the shelf, here, plus rock auto lists tons of stuff for it if i ever need something i don't have. Its pretty easy to swap VW diesels into those, you get 50mpg. Your Arizona van would be a good candidate
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: Dart 500]
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03/15/22 12:07 PM
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I'm always always always more concerned with the body than mechanics. I feel like I can always replace or repair things mechanical but body work and panel repair is so much more difficult and expensive.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: theraif]
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03/15/22 12:28 PM
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IMO it depends on what part of the country you reside...In good old NYS or N East no way, I currently drive a 170K Magnum that looks great but is starting to need more and more maintenance and because of environmental influences its becoming harder to simply remove parts. Additionally as previously mentioned age of vehicle is going to come into play. I have been noticing more and more that parts are not available, not because of the current situation ( no workers// transportation) but the mfg.’s have discontinued making them everything form Ball joints for older Chevy trucks to parts for my '05 Magnum. Seems like mfgs are depleting inventory then discontinuing the product.
I am considering similar option of buying older vehicls with low milage but future parts availability has me cautious.
'01 P1500, Blown/Inj BAE,/Veney ,Bruno/CS2,Dana 60
'01 Dodge 3500 S Cummins Auto, Fresh air kit, 4" Exhaust,
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: W.I.N. Racing]
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03/15/22 12:32 PM
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I would take a 200K Toyota over anything new GM currently makes...and, have more confidence in driving it.
Never, ever argue with an IDIOT. They will drag you to their level and then beat you with their years of experience
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: oldjonny]
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03/15/22 02:08 PM
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Only time a super high mileage vehicle makes sense is when you know the vehicle (and maybe the owner) and its maint/repair history. And also when the body and underside is rust free.
Keep old mopars alive.
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: 2boltmain]
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03/15/22 04:10 PM
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Think it was mentioned earlier . . . I always "plan" on a $1000 bill for "new to me" vehicle . . . no matter what, usually I am the "cooling system" guy - always something goes bad, rad, hoses, thermostat . . . but if you do your homework on the rig, you should be ok. But as I say, have $1k for the first year of ownership, whether it's brakes, tires, suspension, etc . . . still cheaper than $1000/mth car payments !
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: theraif]
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03/19/22 07:59 AM
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i am use too 150-160k cars, now just seems every thing is over 200k , There's a small time dealer downtown that sells cars with 200k plus exclusively. Everything on the lot was $2899.  I recently bought an '03 ram V-10 autio with 176k. We'll see how that pans out when I actually start using it. My DD '13 Ridgeline is at 160k. Still looks and drives great . Wifey's '06 Pilot is at 140k. Again looks and drives great. I suppose I will maintain these high mileage vehicles because I'm not giving up my low mile HC! 
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: redraptor]
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03/19/22 03:13 PM
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i am use too 150-160k cars, now just seems every thing is over 200k , There's a small time dealer downtown that sells cars with 200k plus exclusively. Everything on the lot was $2899. I recently bought an '03 ram V-10 autio with 176k. We'll see how that pans out when I actually start using it. My DD '13 Ridgeline is at 160k. Still looks and drives great . Wifey's '06 Pilot is at 140k. Again looks and drives great. I suppose I will maintain these high mileage vehicles because I'm not giving up my low mile HC! Your DD's are both Hondas....you have a LONG way to go with both of them.
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Re: thoughts of buying a high mileage car/truck
[Re: oldjonny]
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03/19/22 04:42 PM
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i am use too 150-160k cars, now just seems every thing is over 200k , There's a small time dealer downtown that sells cars with 200k plus exclusively. Everything on the lot was $2899. I recently bought an '03 ram V-10 autio with 176k. We'll see how that pans out when I actually start using it. My DD '13 Ridgeline is at 160k. Still looks and drives great . Wifey's '06 Pilot is at 140k. Again looks and drives great. I suppose I will maintain these high mileage vehicles because I'm not giving up my low mile HC! Your DD's are both Hondas....you have a LONG way to go with both of them. You better hope so because working on them is a cast iron PITA
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