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Building a new race Dana 60 #3018625
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I have a new bare Strange Dana 60 housing i am building for a drag only b body. I am narrowing the housing and need to order axles from Strange. I have Strange Late big Ford housing ends and I have a Strange spool. I have all my dimensions figured out for the housing in the chassis. But, I have a few questions:
Is there a difference between axle offset and brake offset? I understand what axle offset is.
What are your opinions on Strange Pro rear dual caliper brakes? Pros/cons?

In order for me to move ahead and cut the tubes to narrow and weld ends on, I need to know the axke and brake offsets so i know where the housing ends need to land ( Housing end to end measurement) I have the Axle hub to axle hub dimension that the rear needs to be. So I just want to make sure I fully inderstand brake/axle offset.

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Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: Chargerfan68] #3018629
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Outside face of axle flange to outside face of housing end. Most late Ford stuff is 2.5”


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Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: Chargerfan68] #3018703
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Have you thought about dual brake calipers on the rear end? If not maybe you should, they really make a difference up scope My S/P car has dual Wilwood 6 piston calipers on 11-inch disc and stops really well at 150+ MPH weighing 2850 Lbs. up It has 40 spline Mark Williams axle with a Moser steel 4 series spool, I couldn't find a 3 series 40 spline spool so I could run 4.10 or 4.30 gears whiney I ended up using a set of stock Dana 4:56 ring and pinion out of a junkyard pickup Dana 60 I bought years ago to narrow down. Lots of passes on them and they still look good up
What size splines on the spool and axles?
As far as the spacing specs on those axles contact Strange Engineering and ask them.


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Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: Cab_Burge] #3018801
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If you are using all Strange stuff, you can provide your wheel to wheel dimension and pinion offset, and they can figure it from there. They can figure axle stick out for the brake kit you are using. And give you cut lengths. Use your pinion CL tool, do the math to verify.

Wheel face from pinion CL - housing end - axle stickout - minus brake hat thickness = cut length.

Strange makes good stuff. No reason to use the Wilwood/Aerospace stuff if you are using their axles and ends. And getting everything from them eliminates stuff not fitting.

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Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: Cab_Burge] #3018875
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Have you thought about dual brake calipers on the rear end? If not maybe you should, they really make a difference up scope My S/P car has dual Wilwood 6 piston calipers on 11-inch disc and stops really well at 150+ MPH weighing 2850 Lbs. up It has 40 spline Mark Williams axle with a Moser steel 4 series spool, I couldn't find a 3 series 40 spline spool so I could run 4.10 or 4.30 gears whiney I ended up using a set of stock Dana 4:56 ring and pinion out of a junkyard pickup Dana 60 I bought years ago to narrow down. Lots of passes on them and they still look good up
What size splines on the spool and axles?
As far as the spacing specs on those axles contact Strange Engineering and ask them.


Thanks …..i was looking at the dual caliper Strange kit. Any downside to the 2 piece rotor design? I am considering them.

Also, I have a 40 spline spool. I’ll go with the 5/8” studs on the axles.


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Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: Chargerfan68] #3018879
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Double check on which master cylinder to use with dual rear calipers. You'll need to move a lot of brake fluid with dual calipers on each side so you'll need a big bore master cylinder and a big reservoir.

Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: CMcAllister] #3018880
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Originally Posted by CMcAllister
If you are using all Strange stuff, you can provide your wheel to wheel dimension and pinion offset, and they can figure it from there. They can figure axle stick out for the brake kit you are using. And give you cut lengths. Use your pinion CL tool, do the math to verify.

Wheel face from pinion CL - housing end - axle stickout - minus brake hat thickness = cut length.

Strange makes good stuff. No reason to use the Wilwood/Aerospace stuff if you are using their axles and ends. And getting everything from them eliminates stuff not fitting.


Thank you…..ok, i’ll call them and give them the wheel to wheel dimension and pinion c/l to wheel dimensions and let them back into the axle dimensions. I just wanted to know the component dimensions so that I could go ahead and cut and narrow the bare housing. Prob better i receive all the parts and confirm all the dimensions once in hand before i commit and cut the tubes down.

Thanks everyone!


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Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: AndyF] #3018881
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just got a s-60 from strange, pinion off set was 1 3/8 b-body, 2.5 brake off set mopar bearings, you can download measurement chart strange. com


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Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: AndyF] #3018882
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Double check on which master cylinder to use with dual rear calipers. You'll need to move a lot of brake fluid with dual calipers on each side so you'll need a big bore master cylinder and a big reservoir.


Thank you Andy…..that was another point on my list. I need to move forward at this point and choose a rear brake setup, but i would prefer to have a complete brake system designed to work properly together rather than piece it together. I think you might be one of the people that suggested that before. I will also call Strange and find out what M/C and front kit is designed with that rear setup in mind. I do know I am going with an Alston front clip on this car, so I need to make sure the spindles are designed for those frame rails and will work with the Strange ft brake kit.


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Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: 440lebaron] #3018883
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Originally Posted by 440lebaron
just got a s-60 from strange, pinion off set was 1 3/8 b-body, 2.5 brake off set mopar bearings, you can download measurement chart strange. com



Thanks. Saw that chart, but was a little unclear on rotor hat thickness, and if the caliper bracket definetely mounted on backside of the housing end and it’s thickness. Those would affect axle length and housing dimension , so I needed those before I can cut and natrow housing.


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Re: Building a new race Dana 60 [Re: Chargerfan68] #3019320
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Just an FYI on this subject. Strange has Mopar bolt pattern housing ends that take a 3.150 bearing so you can use 40 spline axles and still use existing brakes.

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Unless you have a lot of room for tires I’d stick them under the car then measure from back of wheel flange to flange, let them figure it out.

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Originally Posted by fbs63
Just an FYI on this subject. Strange has Mopar bolt pattern housing ends that take a 3.150 bearing so you can use 40 spline axles and still use existing brakes.


Thx. I didn’t lnow that. But, I am starting from scratch with everything and will prob get the Strange pro race setup along with the axles.


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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Unless you have a lot of room for tires I’d stick them under the car then measure from back of wheel flange to flange, let them figure it out.


That’s exactly what I am going to do. I have that measurement. Then, once I receive all the parts in hand, I will confirm rverything before I cut and narrow tubes.

Thx


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I went with a 1 ton truck Dana 60 (thicker axle tubes). Narrowed it with big bearing ends. All Strange eng. Components, L.w. 40 spline spool, 40 spline gun drilled l.w. axles. Pro stock brake kit, stud girdle rear cover, 5/8 studs.

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