Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
[Re: plumcrzyTA]
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02/17/22 02:39 PM
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Check Summit as they have the sizes for small bolt Cragars. Thenew ones use conical nuts instead of the shank nuts that are hard to find. Summit has them for $251 each and only in 14x6 and $244 for 14x7. I had these wheels on my 69 Dart for decades. I don't believe you can get small bolt pattern Cragars in 15" sizes...
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Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
[Re: Neil]
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02/17/22 05:33 PM
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If you have discs you can do the early mustang rotor swap to get to the bigger bolt pattern without having to change a bunch of parts. The rear you would still need new axles/brakes. This is what I do also, just takes a little time on the lathe, then if a persons wants to go back to small bolt pattern it’s just a rotor swap back. I run a set of 15x4s I had rechromed on the front and a set of 15x8s on the rear. Love the cragars
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Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
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02/18/22 05:08 AM
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[quote= The rear you would still need new axles/brakes. Wrong, you can have the axles and rear drums redrill for screw in 1/2-inch studs to the 4.5 inch pattern I've had it done more than once, works good, last a long time [/quote] That's what I did on the rear of our 69 Dart GTS 383 auto. I had the axles drilled and threaded and screw in studs installed. Getting ready to do the 4.5 disc brake swap on the front now.
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Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
[Re: plumcrzyTA]
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02/18/22 03:49 PM
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The adapters that I linked are.
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Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
[Re: plumcrzyTA]
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02/18/22 03:55 PM
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As long as Cragar still offers their wheels in 15" with the small bolt pattern, that is the way to go. No sense in spending $100 on adapters and then buying new wheels, too.
Cragar used to offer custom back spacing by special order. I have a pair of 10" on the Cuda now that I special ordered. They weren't much more money either. Cragar helped me spec them and gave me the number that I then went to Summit and ordered. Now that has been 10 years or so ago, so................
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Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
[Re: John_Kunkel]
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02/18/22 09:21 PM
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Interesting, must be kinda new and they say they use mag style lugnuts, so is it the hard to find ones? They say they make 15x6 with conical nuts too, but only that size while the mag nut style are 15x6, 15x7, and 15x8. I have never seen them...
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Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
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02/19/22 01:33 PM
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Interesting, must be kinda new and they say they use mag style lugnuts, so is it the hard to find ones? They say they make 15x6 with conical nuts too, but only that size while the mag nut style are 15x6, 15x7, and 15x8. I have never seen them... They list them here with mag wheel lugnuts but they are unilug with the offset washers if that matters to you. https://www.cragarwheel.com/wheels/product-detail/series-0861-ss/Be sure to carefully check the backspacing. What they offer may not fit.
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Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
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02/19/22 02:17 PM
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after playing with the ET brand "unilug" washers a bunch way back in the 70's, i don't recommend them. even if you glue the washers in place, they flop around, and when you finally get them installed, you MUST keep an eye on them so they STAY tight ! i didn't like them then, and i don't like them now ! in fact, i'm not even a fan of the "slotted" hole style that doesn't require the special washers. get the right, direct fit, bolt pattern wheels the first time. i believe you will be glad you did. just my grumpy old man opinion, your mileage will vary.
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Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
[Re: moparx]
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02/19/22 03:39 PM
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I've used a lot of unilug wheels and never had a problem whatsoever. On the type with only two patterns, installation isn't much different than with sleeve nuts but the three pattern type can be challenging without installation taper nuts.
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Re: CRAGAR SS WHEEL SIZE
[Re: Neil]
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02/19/22 06:39 PM
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First Dart I ever owned had well used 14" ET unilug slots and I never had an issue with them coming loose, although I was made aware that they could do so I kept an eye on them.
Our local race track tech guys frowns on unilugs on fast cars. I have never heard of anyone loosing a wheel because of the design so who knows...
I have never had an issue with them but I sure do know guys who lost wheels and quarter panels from unilug wheels...
The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it.
JB Rhinehart, Realist
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