Re: Dimension Needed from 440 or Hemi
[Re: maximus]
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02/02/22 02:20 AM
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According to the Mopar chassis book 8th edition; the center of the starter nose support in the bellhousing is 7.08" measured from the center of big block bellhousing. I assume this measurment from the book is for an 11" flywheel. The small block bell measurement is less, but does not give the measurement. It appears to be about .25" less. The book does not specify which BB bellhousing in pictured in chapter 4. The slant 6 distance shows to be 6.219" I measure approximately 4" from the starter nose center to the outer side of the starter motor. Motor diameter about 2.8 inches.
Reclocking the starter motor in relation to the crank would bring the motor closer to the crank.
Last edited by Moparteacher; 02/02/22 02:33 AM.
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Re: Dimension Needed from 440 or Hemi
[Re: maximus]
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02/02/22 11:21 AM
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DaveRS23
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Years ago, I really wanted an FED to put my spare big block in. I was told time and again that unless the rails were laid out for Mopar (and few are), that our engines are too wide to fit with the starter in the stock location. But I never actually tried it myself. The few Mopar frames that I found were either too far away, too expensive, or too incomplete. So, I've never had one but still think about it now and then. Good luck! And I am a little envious because that is a project that I have always wanted to do. Be sure and keep us posted on the progress.
Master, again and still
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Re: Dimension Needed from 440 or Hemi
[Re: maximus]
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02/02/22 01:24 PM
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I wound up moving my starter to the righ tside of the motor. Here is some pics that may help
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Re: Dimension Needed from 440 or Hemi
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02/02/22 04:15 PM
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440Jim
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According to the Mopar chassis book 8th edition; the center of the starter nose support in the bellhousing is 7.08" measured from the center of big block bellhousing. I assume this measurment from the book is for an 11" flywheel. This picture is an aftermarket Lakewood BB Mopar bellhousing with several manual transmission bolt patterns. It has two starter positions. This is what I came up with for measurements.
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Re: Dimension Needed from 440 or Hemi
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02/02/22 05:29 PM
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Have a JW housing and glide. The outermost edge of the bell housing is also 9.5 inches for C/L. So if the starter does not exceed the width of the bell housing, there should not be a problem. Although the JW bellhousing is 19" total width (9.5 x 2), it is not the same on both sides. The starter side is close to 10.5" from the center and the other side is much less.
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Re: Dimension Needed from 440 or Hemi
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02/02/22 06:07 PM
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I think the oil pump sticks out more than starter that was a big issue the genII hemi's in front engine cares. the old frames would fit an early hemi or big block chevy the mopar wedge and hemi needed pump mods to fit the frame.
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