Engine block deburring question
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For those that have experience deburring engine blocks, do you recall a brass appearance in the area that was cleaned up on an original cast iron block? Here is a pic of what I’m referring to. I’m not sure if this is a result of a repair or from deburring the block?
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Re: Engine block deburring question
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That appears to have been brazed or welded, likely had some porosity at the parting lines and was brazed/welded to repair.
No telling when it happened, good chance it could be a factory repair. I’ve seen evidence of arc welding on blocks Known to have never been apart before, but Not brazing but wouldn’t be surprised. They were cheap back then and didn’t like to scrap anything questionable….
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Re: Engine block deburring question
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Looks like a lot of repair to me. Should be all cast and no brass. What do you mean by original???????????? The block is a standard bore and appears to retain the original paint. My initial thought was a plant repair. I’ve seen blocks that were deburred and washed, but don’t recall ever noticing the brass color, which alarmed me. I figured if the block was recently repaired, it would have been thoroughly cleaned (hot tanked) and there would have been witness of paint flaking at a minimum? However, if it was a post plant repair, maybe the original paint was left to disguise and minimum prep was performed, since it was an internal repair?
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Re: Engine block deburring question
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Re: Engine block deburring question
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what does the outside area look like?
only brass/bronze I see is the bushing for the intermediate shaft.
it does "look" like a repair "braze/weld bead" around the cam bearing area. maybe a stress crack?
but then again I have had a lot of flash rusting while working/grinding/ machining blocks/heads and do have to go back and clean it up. but the cast iron should polish up like chrome and brass should polish up also.
scratching with an AWL is needed and a pic of the outside area of the block.
studying the pic a little while longer it looks like the color (brass/bronze?) is right up to the cam bearing ede. I wounder if it got a gorilla fisted grinder that maybe removed to much of the boss and then brazed/weld to build it back up?
maybe a chunk cracked off when cam bearing were installed at factory and a repair was done? ( you said it looked to be a virgin engine never apart maybe?)
Humm...puzzling indeed!
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Re: Engine block deburring question
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That looks like corrosion to me from being ground on and then sitting in a moist climate I see that now. Appears almost like brazing on the phone screen, looks more like corrosion on the computer screen. Maybe clean it up in an area or two and see.
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Re: Engine block deburring question
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