Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
#2995798
12/16/21 12:39 PM
12/16/21 12:39 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,515 So. Burlington, Vt.
fast68plymouth
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,515
So. Burlington, Vt.
|
People have run in the 9’s with them in SS.
My heap has only been able to muster an 11.18@123 at 3550lbs running unported 906’s, RPM intake and SFT cam.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
#2995847
12/16/21 03:54 PM
12/16/21 03:54 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 22 CA
jung
member
|
member
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 22
CA
|
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
#2995939
12/16/21 09:13 PM
12/16/21 09:13 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,086 Mo.
racerx
master
|
master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,086
Mo.
|
People have run in the 9’s with them in SS.
My heap has only been able to muster an 11.18@123 at 3550lbs running unported 906’s, RPM intake and SFT cam. Thats not bad for a 383 @3550 lbs. What were the 60'? consider this a ![bump bump](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/bump.gif) i have a 383 that i would like to put in something one day.
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
#2995948
12/16/21 09:42 PM
12/16/21 09:42 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,213 New York
polyspheric
master
|
master
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,213
New York
|
Due to the large chamber, short stroke and large rod ratio, the charge motion, vacuum, etc. near TDC is unlike larger engines. I'll bet the cam should look different as o I/E bias, OL, LSA.
Boffin Emeritus
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
#2996094
12/17/21 12:08 PM
12/17/21 12:08 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,515 So. Burlington, Vt.
fast68plymouth
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,515
So. Burlington, Vt.
|
There have been quite a few 383 powered NHRA Stockers that get into the 10’s pretty regularly.
Those are way more impressive than my heap running 11’s with a cam that has .100” more lift, a big carb, and an aftermarket intake manifold.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
#2996104
12/17/21 12:28 PM
12/17/21 12:28 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,896 Spahn Ranch
RMCHRGR
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,896
Spahn Ranch
|
What are these quicker 383 engines revving to? Not a real accurate comparison here but the basically factory original, stock stroke 383 with a factory "335 hp" hydraulic cam in my Coronet won't go much beyond 4,500 rpm. ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif)
'71 Duster '72 Challenger '17 Ram 1500
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: RMCHRGR]
#2996112
12/17/21 12:53 PM
12/17/21 12:53 PM
|
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,853 South Bend
John Brown
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,853
South Bend
|
What are these quicker 383 engines revving to? Not a real accurate comparison here but the basically factory original, stock stroke 383 with a factory "335 hp" hydraulic cam in my Coronet won't go much beyond 4,500 rpm. Likely rpm limited by the hydraulic lifters and the way they pump up at that rpm and hold valves off the seat. I have used hydraulic cams that required adjusting them out to .006 using a feeler gauge. That did away with any possibility of pump up.
July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: John Brown]
#2996149
12/17/21 02:29 PM
12/17/21 02:29 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383 fredericksburg,va
cudaman1969
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383
fredericksburg,va
|
What are these quicker 383 engines revving to? Not a real accurate comparison here but the basically factory original, stock stroke 383 with a factory "335 hp" hydraulic cam in my Coronet won't go much beyond 4,500 rpm. Likely rpm limited by the hydraulic lifters and the way they pump up at that rpm and hold valves off the seat. I have used hydraulic cams that required adjusting them out to .006 using a feeler gauge. That did away with any possibility of pump up. Did the same with mine, zero lash (when pushrod stopped turning lock it down), 6800 easy with a .509 cam 11.60s @ 118 in a Duster street hemi converter.
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: RMCHRGR]
#2996204
12/17/21 05:45 PM
12/17/21 05:45 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,213 New York
polyspheric
master
|
master
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,213
New York
|
The cam does not limit RPM, only power. With enough spring you can blow it up.
Boffin Emeritus
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: polyspheric]
#2996209
12/17/21 06:22 PM
12/17/21 06:22 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383 fredericksburg,va
cudaman1969
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383
fredericksburg,va
|
The cam does not limit RPM, only power. With enough spring you can blow it up. I had 1.5” triple springs off a E Modified small block
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: Twostick]
#2996404
12/18/21 12:11 PM
12/18/21 12:11 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 570 UK
rb446
mopar
|
mopar
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 570
UK
|
I'm sure you guys remember the SS/IA Rod Shop Dodge now running here in UK, I saw it run a best of 10.2 in 2020 he blew the 7500rpm+ 383 motor so now has a Hemi in it.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rod+shop+dodge+challenger+launch+at+santa+pod&t=chromentp&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fsantapod.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fdrivers2018%2FDuncanWattsm.jpg
1969 'Cuda 446ci, best 9.96@133.9 in 1990 1971 340 'Cuda, best 11.01@122.8 in 1987
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: rb446]
#2996824
12/19/21 08:56 PM
12/19/21 08:56 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,368 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,368
Bend,OR USA
|
I think I remember Dave Wren running in the 9.80s back a long time ago with his 1971 Cuda 383 SS/I car in the mid 1970s ![boogie boogie](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/boogie.gif) If I'm remembering correctly he let the clutch out at 8800 RPM and shifted it around 8200 RPM ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif) That motor was a unbored 400 block given to him by the Mopar factory drag engineers that they had built and flogged a bunch on the dyno before giving it to him to race to outrun the 350 Chevy in that class: devil:
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: 69dart]
#2996978
12/20/21 10:25 AM
12/20/21 10:25 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 348 Isle of Sheeps
Gtxxjon
enthusiast
|
enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 348
Isle of Sheeps
|
There was a time in the 80’s and 90’s, folks would prefer a 383 engine. I guess they were ‘cheap and cheerful’ and plenty around, even in the UK. My first experience of Street driven Mopar 383 ‘drag cars’ in the early 80’s, was they ran quick! Before Aluminium heads and only purple shaft cams, they was King... ![penguin penguin](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/penguin-006.gif) The 906 head was the ‘bees knees’ back then and strokers were unheard of. Then the 90’s came and folks were running into the tens with iron head 440’s. My old iron headed 452 actually ran into the nines with no NOS. The best 383 I ever remembered was Steve Case’s, plum crazy Challenger. Street driven TEN second car and a real R/T too... Been around forever and still doing it large with a 383ci lol... ![drive drive](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/drive.gif)
Last edited by Gtxxjon; 12/20/21 10:31 AM.
Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero, thanx Horace!
There’s no point trying to fix stuff that ain’t broke,,, 'but if ain’t broke',,, you is not trying hard enough...
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: Gtxxjon]
#2996983
12/20/21 10:37 AM
12/20/21 10:37 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 348 Isle of Sheeps
Gtxxjon
enthusiast
|
enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 348
Isle of Sheeps
|
There was a fantastic 383ci engine article in an old Mopar book, ''Musclecar and Hi-Po engines'' Chrysler themselves got Victor Edelbrock to do a 'Hotrod' article on a NEW factory 383ci engine in 1967! They had been hearing of ‘bad press’ for the 335hp ‘383ci’ so 'MOTHER MOPAR' wanted to put the record straight lol. On the Dyno, a brand new low mileage 383ci made only 280 horses... ![fan fan](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/fan.gif) So with lots of machine work and the right camshaft, they got it up to 420 horses. ![drumhit drumhit](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/drumhit.gif) The article does not say which heads were used 516 or 915 (440) heads? The biggest problem being was 'factory over-tight' clearances. ''Freeing the horsepower'' was just more piston to wall and bearing gaps, worth 100hp... ![drinking drinking](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/drinking.gif)
Last edited by Gtxxjon; 12/20/21 11:48 AM.
Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero, thanx Horace!
There’s no point trying to fix stuff that ain’t broke,,, 'but if ain’t broke',,, you is not trying hard enough...
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
#2997006
12/20/21 11:57 AM
12/20/21 11:57 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 1,202 Loudoun County, VA
Brad_Haak
pro stock
|
pro stock
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 1,202
Loudoun County, VA
|
Me, personally... 14.0 at 101 MPH in a '69 Super Bee 383 4-speed... back in either '79 or '80. Hey, you asked! Likely my favorite 383 car ever: Dave Boertman's '71 Challenger SS car. It was a mid-to-high 10-sec car with an "interesting" backstory as described HERE.
2021 Challenger 6.4L Scat Pack 1320 100% stock: 1.680, 11.894 at 113.75 (DA 175 ft) weight reduction, wheels, tires, Hellcat air box: 1.661, 11.686 at 115.97 (DA 710 ft)
1973 Challenger 452 ci street/strip [2008] pump gas, DOT radials: 1.454, 10.523 at 126.44 (DA 514 ft)
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: Brad_Haak]
#2997045
12/20/21 02:06 PM
12/20/21 02:06 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,896 Spahn Ranch
RMCHRGR
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,896
Spahn Ranch
|
What oil pumps were being used for these 7,500+ rpm combos? How loose on the bearings? Presuming these faster times were roller cam/tunnel ram/open header combos with 5K+ 8" converters and 5.xx gears... Almost forgot that just recently I finished helping my friend build a 383 stroker (438"). It's a pretty mild street cruiser combo. OOTB 440 Source heads, about 9.3:1 C.R., 228/232 @ .050" hydraulic FT cam, RPM intake, headers, 750 carb. Made just under 450 hp and 450+ lb. ft. of torque. It did rev to 6,000 rpm though which is more than I can say for the heap in my own car. Combo is going in a '66 Fury with highway gears and regular tires. Won't be raced but maybe it might go in the 13's on slicks. 383/438 On the dyno For B Bodies Only
'71 Duster '72 Challenger '17 Ram 1500
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: Brad_Haak]
#2997050
12/20/21 02:09 PM
12/20/21 02:09 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,715 Wichita
GY3
master
|
master
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,715
Wichita
|
Me, personally... 14.0 at 101 MPH in a '69 Super Bee 383 4-speed... back in either '79 or '80. Hey, you asked! Likely my favorite 383 car ever: Dave Boertman's '71 Challenger SS car. It was a mid-to-high 10-sec car with an "interesting" backstory as described HERE. Wow, lots of trickery going on there!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: Gtxxjon]
#2997086
12/20/21 04:43 PM
12/20/21 04:43 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383 fredericksburg,va
cudaman1969
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383
fredericksburg,va
|
There was a fantastic 383ci engine article in an old Mopar book, ''Musclecar and Hi-Po engines'' Chrysler themselves got Victor Edelbrock to do a 'Hotrod' article on a NEW factory 383ci engine in 1967! They had been hearing of ‘bad press’ for the 335hp ‘383ci’ so 'MOTHER MOPAR' wanted to put the record straight lol. On the Dyno, a brand new low mileage 383ci made only 280 horses... ![fan fan](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/fan.gif) So with lots of machine work and the right camshaft, they got it up to 420 horses. ![drumhit drumhit](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/drumhit.gif) The article does not say which heads were used 516 or 915 (440) heads? The biggest problem being was 'factory over-tight' clearances. ''Freeing the horsepower'' was just more piston to wall and bearing gaps, worth 100hp... My car, Duster @ 3000 pounds and me at 180 ran 118, the Wallace calc says 400 Hp. 030 over pop up TRW slugs, stock bottom end, .509 cam, 915 stock heads (triple springs), isky rockers, Torker intake, 3310 Holly, Hooker headers, 4.88 gears 11.5X 29.5 M&H slicks and street Hemi converter. A little port work in the heads and I’m sure it would have run faster
Last edited by cudaman1969; 12/20/21 04:44 PM.
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: Cab_Burge]
#2997488
12/22/21 01:05 AM
12/22/21 01:05 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place
cudadoug
master
|
master
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,245
Between a rock & a hard place
|
I think I remember Dave Wren running in the 9.80s back a long time ago with his 1971 Cuda 383 SS/I car in the mid 1970s ![boogie boogie](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/boogie.gif) If I'm remembering correctly he let the clutch out at 8800 RPM and shifted it around 8200 RPM ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif) That motor was a unbored 400 block given to him by the Mopar factory drag engineers that they had built and flogged a bunch on the dyno before giving it to him to race to outrun the 350 Chevy in that class: devil: You mean 10.80s? The record minimum today is 10.05...
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: cudadoug]
#2997498
12/22/21 03:13 AM
12/22/21 03:13 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,368 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,368
Bend,OR USA
|
NHRA will reset the SS and Stock records to a minimum after they had been the record for two years, at least they use to do that. ![scope scope](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/scope.gif) I'm pretty sure about the numbers Dave Wren ran with that car Mopar gave him that motor for, Bob Mazzolini ran almost that quick with his 1971 SS/IA 383 Cuda a bunch of years later in another Mopar prep body in white car from Portland, it was trick also ![whistling whistling](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/whistling.gif) CRS on remembering the original owners of that car, they had several Dodge and Plymouth dealerships in the Portland area back in the late1960 and early 1970, Italian last name: ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif)
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: RMCHRGR]
#2997706
12/22/21 10:39 PM
12/22/21 10:39 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 296 Ontario Canada
Hutch
enthusiast
|
enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 296
Ontario Canada
|
What oil pumps were being used for these 7,500+ rpm combos? How loose on the bearings? Presuming these faster times were roller cam/tunnel ram/open header combos with 5K+ 8" converters and 5.xx gears... Almost forgot that just recently I finished helping my friend build a 383 stroker (438"). It's a pretty mild street cruiser combo. OOTB 440 Source heads, about 9.3:1 C.R., 228/232 @ .050" hydraulic FT cam, RPM intake, headers, 750 carb. Made just under 450 hp and 450+ lb. ft. of torque. It did rev to 6,000 rpm though which is more than I can say for the heap in my own car. Combo is going in a '66 Fury with highway gears and regular tires. Won't be raced but maybe it might go in the 13's on slicks. 383/438 On the dyno For B Bodies Only Stock volume pumps. 0035" mains. 0028" rods no problems. Hutch
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: cudadoug]
#2997734
12/22/21 11:54 PM
12/22/21 11:54 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,114 Michigan
A727Tflite
master
|
master
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,114
Michigan
|
I think I remember Dave Wren running in the 9.80s back a long time ago with his 1971 Cuda 383 SS/I car in the mid 1970s ![boogie boogie](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/boogie.gif) If I'm remembering correctly he let the clutch out at 8800 RPM and shifted it around 8200 RPM ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif) That motor was a unbored 400 block given to him by the Mopar factory drag engineers that they had built and flogged a bunch on the dyno before giving it to him to race to outrun the 350 Chevy in that class: devil: You mean 10.80s? The record minimum today is 10.05... SS/AA cars were barely in the 9’s - no way did Wren or anyone else run that fast in IA.
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: A727Tflite]
#2997764
12/23/21 02:43 AM
12/23/21 02:43 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,368 Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
I Win
|
I Win
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,368
Bend,OR USA
|
That car ran in SS/I, not SS/IA. Dave Boertman SS/JA 1971 Challenger was a lot slower than Wrens 1971 Cuda was ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif) Dave was thrown out of the Indy Nationals two years later running that quick and fast after winning the class in teardown in either 1974 or 1975 , the wheelbase was 1/8 inch to short ![rant rant](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/rant.gif) He was one of many sportsman racers sponsored by Mopar in the NHRA sportsman classes before they went BK in 1980 due to the unfair weight advantage NHRA had given to the Chevy Pro Sttock racers racing against the Hemi cars in 1973. ![down down](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/down.gif) I remember the SS/A and SS/AA cars running in the mid to low nines in the 1974 Winternataionals. ![shruggy shruggy](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/shruggy.gif)
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: Cab_Burge]
#2997772
12/23/21 05:54 AM
12/23/21 05:54 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,114 Michigan
A727Tflite
master
|
master
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,114
Michigan
|
Much as I hate to say it the Chevies had us covered.
Notice the date the records were set.
Last edited by Transman; 12/23/21 10:17 AM.
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: A727Tflite]
#2997908
12/23/21 03:23 PM
12/23/21 03:23 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383 fredericksburg,va
cudaman1969
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383
fredericksburg,va
|
Much as I hate to say it the Chevies had us covered.
Notice the date the records were set.
Just like today, nobody runs as fast as they can or weight is added to your class. The big hitters never ran all out. Chrysler told the A cars to not bomb the record so the little guys in their class have a chance, more cars more publicity.
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: tjmarcus1]
#2997921
12/23/21 04:09 PM
12/23/21 04:09 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,037 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...
gregsdart
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,037
Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...
|
Year, 1970. US hywy 2 west of Grand Forks ND. Observed 5750 on my tach, converted to 138mph. 1968Coronet, 4spd. Stock motor, 3.23 gears. Handled loose as a goose!
8.582, 160.18 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: cudaman1969]
#2997976
12/23/21 06:32 PM
12/23/21 06:32 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,114 Michigan
A727Tflite
master
|
master
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,114
Michigan
|
Much as I hate to say it the Chevies had us covered.
Notice the date the records were set.
Just like today, nobody runs as fast as they can or weight is added to your class. The big hitters never ran all out. Chrysler told the A cars to not bomb the record so the little guys in their class have a chance, more cars more publicity. Most fast cars sandbagged to a point but I don’t recall ever seeing/hearing any Chrysler product run a second under the record. I know of a few Chrysler products that won class by running out the backdoor and ended up bombing the record, but no where did they run more than a tenth or two under. Was directly involved in all the Chrysler “activities” from around 67 to 80. Pretty much knew what cars were sandbagging and which ones were bogus. Some “heroes” won SS back in the day that should have been tossed but even they didn’t run a second under the record either. And the other thing to use as a benchmark. A similar car in a differentiations Eliminator like MP. 1975 - A/MP 68 Dart at 426 @ 3400 lbs. Tunnel ram, ported aluminum heads, ran 9.45 @ 145-148 mph. How would a SS legal SS/A car go that fast the same year with “legal” heads and a crossram.?
Last edited by Transman; 12/23/21 06:38 PM.
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: A727Tflite]
#2998239
12/24/21 05:03 PM
12/24/21 05:03 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383 fredericksburg,va
cudaman1969
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,383
fredericksburg,va
|
Much as I hate to say it the Chevies had us covered.
Notice the date the records were set.
Just like today, nobody runs as fast as they can or weight is added to your class. The big hitters never ran all out. Chrysler told the A cars to not bomb the record so the little guys in their class have a chance, more cars more publicity. Most fast cars sandbagged to a point but I don’t recall ever seeing/hearing any Chrysler product run a second under the record. I know of a few Chrysler products that won class by running out the backdoor and ended up bombing the record, but no where did they run more than a tenth or two under. Was directly involved in all the Chrysler “activities” from around 67 to 80. Pretty much knew what cars were sandbagging and which ones were bogus. Some “heroes” won SS back in the day that should have been tossed but even they didn’t run a second under the record either. And the other thing to use as a benchmark. A similar car in a differentiations Eliminator like MP. 1975 - A/MP 68 Dart at 426 @ 3400 lbs. Tunnel ram, ported aluminum heads, ran 9.45 @ 145-148 mph. How would a SS legal SS/A car go that fast the same year with “legal” heads and a crossram.? Those years all run together now but pro stock was barely in the nines around 70-72, iirr. Super Stock race at the beach in 69 or 70 the A cars were running 10.60s-80s and the best 65 A990 Plym 4 speed went 11.07. Sam P. had a 69 GTX Hemi 4 speed convertible running 11.50s. We thought they were flying. No door slammer got close to the nines
|
|
|
Re: How fast have you been with a standard stroke 383?
[Re: cudaman1969]
#2999743
12/29/21 10:47 PM
12/29/21 10:47 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 554 Kentucky
clovis
mopar
|
mopar
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 554
Kentucky
|
I saw Doug Duell at Beech Bend this year working out a 383 they had in the Hemi Cuda. I think it was running GT/GA which I believe is a 10.40 index so I’m pretty sure its in the 9’s.
'75 Plymouth Duster Phase I 451 906/590/2-660 10.75/126 Phase II 451 Stage VI/590/1050 9.82/135 Phase III 383 906/Victor-Pump gas 11.30/119
"For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,"
|
|
|
|
|