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Re: Ignition box choices [Re: Cab_Burge] #2991560
12/03/21 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by squirrel
I'm running an old Mallory dual point, with a cable drive for the tach. But it only gets into the nines occasionally, and I have to file the points every 10k miles or so...which I can deal with.

Have you ever treid another newer ignition on that car?


No, it's a non-transistor car, it doesn't get anything modern. Running an occasional nine in a street driven car with only mid 60s technology is so much damn fun, that I don't care whether or not I could make it "better" with newer parts.

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Re: Ignition box choices [Re: squirrel] #2991593
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Squirrel I applaud you for having the courage to go forward with low -tech but proven choices to hot rodding. I am a big fan myself. If you have deep enough pockets and a large circle of friends, most can accomplish what they want to get done. My current project has many low-tech components and ideas in it. High -tech is great and it sells, but your ingenuity is the spirit of this sport and others. My 70's era big block Nova also ran its fastest times in the 9's with an old Mallory dual point distributor that looked ancient even then. Better than the Hayes Stinger electronic ignition introduced back then. Stick with it! Bill

Re: Ignition box choices [Re: squirrel] #2991600
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Originally Posted by squirrel
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by squirrel
I'm running an old Mallory dual point, with a cable drive for the tach. But it only gets into the nines occasionally, and I have to file the points every 10k miles or so...which I can deal with.

Have you ever treid another newer ignition on that car?


No, it's a non-transistor car, it doesn't get anything modern. Running an occasional nine in a street driven car with only mid 60s technology is so much damn fun, that I don't care whether or not I could make it "better" with newer parts.


Something to be said for old school reliability. My friends with modern fuel injected engines have all kinds of trouble with sensors, injectors and other electronic stuff going bad while mine has been stone reliable since it was built.


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Ignition box choices [Re: DaveRS23] #2991614
12/03/21 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Originally Posted by rebel
I got a Crane HI6 thats damn near 30 years old with a 3 step. Has to be the most reliable ignition box I have ever owned & it even starts the car when the battery is low. Shame they dont still make them.


iagree I have ran Crane boxes on several different projects over the years. Never a failure unlike the MSD crap. The one on my Cuda today I bought used for $100 15 years ago. I see them for sale on the 'net every once in a while. If I were still building projects, I would grab every one that came along.


The Crane boxes where very popular in Nascar and NHRA Prostock,. They even made an analog version just for Nascar because Nascar didn't want anything digital on the cars. Eventually Nascar and NHRA required a specific secured Msd box so that nobody could modify it. Wonder how much Msd had to pay Nhra and Nascar to get that rule. That was pretty much the end of Crane Ignition.

It occurs to me that Daytona Sensors looks like it could be updated Crane. Wonder if they bought out Crane Ignition and continued to develope it with new features.

I have had a New Crane system complete with their 3 step box and retard box sitting on a shelf for almost twenty years. The plan was to put it on when the chrome box failed. The chrome box never failed.


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Re: Ignition box choices [Re: GomangoCuda] #2991638
12/03/21 01:28 PM
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I have the understanding that the Crane engineer is the same guy that now runs/develops Daytona Sensor products. Not sure how true that is, but have been told that by a few in the business.

Re: Ignition box choices [Re: GY3] #2992484
12/06/21 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by squirrel
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by squirrel
I'm running an old Mallory dual point, with a cable drive for the tach. But it only gets into the nines occasionally, and I have to file the points every 10k miles or so...which I can deal with.

Have you ever treid another newer ignition on that car?


No, it's a non-transistor car, it doesn't get anything modern. Running an occasional nine in a street driven car with only mid 60s technology is so much damn fun, that I don't care whether or not I could make it "better" with newer parts.


Something to be said for old school reliability. My friends with modern fuel injected engines have all kinds of trouble with sensors, injectors and other electronic stuff going bad while mine has been stone reliable since it was built.

iagree Absolutely! If you're not trying to set the world on fire w/ every ounce of tuning capability out there, the old stuff is just better quality in my opinion.
I just got a box full of good used, but older, MSD stuff yesterday, lol.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Ignition box choices [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2992530
12/06/21 12:11 PM
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Did you end up going with an older 7 series box?


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Ignition box choices [Re: GY3] #2992847
12/07/21 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GY3
Did you end up going with an older 7 series box?

No. I'm still trying to make the digital box work. Have a few things to try/test. If not, I'm going back to the old analog 6AL w/ another retard box.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Ignition box choices [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2993210
12/08/21 12:33 PM
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My favorite box was the Mallory digital 6. It had everything built in with push buttons for the price of a 6AL. Sadly it was dropped several years ago and those boxes are like unicorns now.


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68 Dart - 340
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Re: Ignition box choices [Re: 69dart] #2995875
12/16/21 05:47 PM
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I scraped the MSD and went to Daytona Sensors and could not be happier.


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1970 Plymouth Duster 360/904 10.60s with J heads
Re: Ignition box choices [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #2998136
12/24/21 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Azzkikrcuda
My simple Street/Strip recipe. Mopar Chrome Box, Recurved stock electric distributor, Msd Blaster 2 coil, Mopar .25 ohm resistor. Used this setup on multiple cars over the years with no problems.

Same here, been using that setup for years.

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