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440 tear down? #2963714 09/13/21 05:09 PM 09/13/21 05:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 156 bc 3 37dodge OP member
37dodge OP member 3 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 156 bc	I'm taking apart a 1978 440 from a M/H I though it was standard bore. After taking the heads off looks like it was rebuild, .030 over, super nice cyl. walls, I don't think it has more 10,000 mi. on it. I found a windage tray, Dbl. roller timing chain and these connecting rods. Whats the scoop on the connecting rods (coating)??? I don't think it's rust thanks Last edited by 37dodge; 09/13/21 10:11 PM.

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: 37dodge] #2963715 09/13/21 05:16 PM 09/13/21 05:16 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 12,234 Looking for a way out of Middl... IMGTX I Live Here
IMGTX I Live Here Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 12,234 Looking for a way out of Middl...	I used to see the inside of engines that used Penzoil that color but it was the whole engine not just the rods. I'm curious too.

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: 37dodge] #2963719 09/13/21 05:27 PM 09/13/21 05:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,786 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,786 Rio Linda, CA	Rods are often copper plated to reduce the size of oversized bores...big end or small end or both. Oversized due to wear or faulty machining. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: John_Kunkel] #2963727 09/13/21 05:49 PM 09/13/21 05:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 156 bc 3 37dodge OP member
37dodge OP member 3 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 156 bc	looks like the whole rod is that color ,I thought it mite be that paint for inside the block

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: 37dodge] #2963746 09/13/21 06:36 PM 09/13/21 06:36 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	Not sure what it means, but I have taken apart some mopar big blocks with rods of that color. You should also locate date stampimgs or ink on backsides of rod and mains to give you an idea of bearing dates.

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: buildanother] #2963765 09/13/21 07:13 PM 09/13/21 07:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,893 Harriman NY 7 71GTX471 top fuel
71GTX471 top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,893 Harriman NY	Looks like a cast crank too me,most M/H eng.s had HD SP type rods & forged cranks.

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: 37dodge] #2963785 09/13/21 08:16 PM 09/13/21 08:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,075 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,075 Benton, IL.	I can't help with the rod question. But I will offer this, if you're interested; You tear down an engine, not tare down an engine. And you would like to see it be standard bore, not stander bore. There are other issues in your post, too. But that is probably enough for now. This is not an attempt to be a spelling Nazi. Just offering a couple of spelling corrections should you wish to take them. And if not, well.................... Master, again and still

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: DaveRS23] #2963823 09/13/21 10:00 PM 09/13/21 10:00 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 3,054 N.W. Florida F Fat_Mike master
Fat_Mike master F Joined: May 2003 Posts: 3,054 N.W. Florida	Originally Posted by DaveRS23 I can't help with the rod question. But I will offer this, if you're interested; You tear down an engine, not tare down an engine. And you would like to see it be standard bore, not stander bore. There are other issues in your post, too. But that is probably enough for now. This is not an attempt to be a spelling Nazi. Just offering a couple of spelling corrections should you wish to take them. And if not, well.................... Ya, no...you don't need to be the spelling nazi. Yoo have to much to offer around here (and I sincerely appreciate that), but yore grammer corrections mite bee less then aprisheayted. Thin again, perhaps I shoodn't stir the beens.

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: Fat_Mike] #2963930 09/14/21 09:22 AM 09/14/21 09:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,075 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,075 Benton, IL.	You are right that some (maybe many) people do not take this kind of input kindly and prefer to continue typing gibberish. But once in a while, someone actually takes it to heart and comes off a little less illiterate. Master, again and still

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: DaveRS23] #2963932 09/14/21 09:28 AM 09/14/21 09:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,607 Lapeer, MI. todd440 top fuel
todd440 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,607 Lapeer, MI.	I've seen the recon rods come in boxes with protective coatings like that. You used to be able to buy Mellings and TRW rods, in individual boxes, and they had a coating, more than likely a rust preventative for the shelf time.

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: 37dodge] #2963941 09/14/21 09:51 AM 09/14/21 09:51 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,380 St. Charles, MO wingman Uncreative Title
wingman Uncreative Title Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,380 St. Charles, MO	Originally Posted by 37dodge looks like the whole rod is that color ,I thought it mite be that paint for inside the block I've seen this stuff in lifter valleys for oil control, but never on rods like that. Color looks similar, though. Sorry I'm not much help just guessing. 1969 Dodge Coronet Super Bee 383 A4 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 440 FC7 (sold)

Re: 440 tare down? [Re: wingman] #2964000 09/14/21 12:30 PM 09/14/21 12:30 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,980 Apollo, PA. B1MAXX top fuel
B1MAXX top fuel Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,980 Apollo, PA.	Take some metal polish to them...I bet they are plated in copper. Seen it many times. I know i have some small blocks laying around.

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