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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: cudaman1969]
#2956562
08/23/21 11:49 AM
08/23/21 11:49 AM
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Posts: 13,530
Marion, South Carolina [><]
an8sec70cuda
I Live Here
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I Live Here
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Marion, South Carolina [><]
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Even in the last ten years one tracks tech line was at the gate, your $25 got you passed. One wreck in 25 years, grudge run and way to much engine, big nitrous and big engine, wasn’t ready for all that, low 4s in the 1/8th. Racers are smart enough today to know what’s not safe, more so than the wanna be big time tech jocky who works at Walmart during the week. LOL, yep! That thing wouldn't get a second glance at a lot of tracks around here as far as tech goes. It's better than some stuff I've seen run...pretty fast junk too.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: theraif]
#2956609
08/23/21 01:13 PM
08/23/21 01:13 PM
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Posts: 8,816
fredericksburg,va
cudaman1969
Itch Nutz
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Itch Nutz
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fredericksburg,va
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Many moons ago, it looked like this .. for the time, it was fast , late 70's it ran 10 oh's .. dipped into the 9's
One day, after a dry hop a 3/4 break bar rolled out of the car at the line
Dick Dyce a one time big time drag racer had it stashed for years , he owned couple large salvage yards, hence the name The BEST scoop ever imo too! To heck with the fast cars all tucked in and can’t see then need 4 guys just to get you in the right place. Been there done that. I’ll be back to the slow car where you open the door to see if you’re in the water, shut door pull belts tight nail it, the good ole days. No one needed for help. Pump gas too! That is my kinda car right there
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: fast68plymouth]
#2956619
08/23/21 02:00 PM
08/23/21 02:00 PM
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Posts: 744
Almost Heaven
Bob Stinson
super stock
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super stock
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Almost Heaven
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Looks pretty rust free.
Could probably be brought back to something fairly “normal” with less work than some are doing with pretty rotted out hulks. I bought an A12 that was hacked up like that by a Vanke's shop back in the day. Everything and I mean everything on that kind of car is hacked and making something nice out of it is a bigger task than you might think.
69 road runner A12 ex-racer
71 Duster w/ a 400
Shiny paint causes stress.
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: 70HemiGTX]
#2956656
08/23/21 03:33 PM
08/23/21 03:33 PM
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Posts: 4,841
Wichita
GY3
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Wichita
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I'm just amazed that the front end is still "straight" and not bent up to the sky. Removing the inner fenders takes all the structural integrity away and I don't see any front stringers from the roll bar/cage. Funny how they cut the inner fenders out in the effort to save weight but the super heavy drum brakes are still there!
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
9.92 @ 135mph with a 350 shot of nitrous and 93 octane pump. 1.43 60 ft. 3,750 lbs.
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: GY3]
#2957121
08/24/21 10:19 PM
08/24/21 10:19 PM
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Posts: 6,187
Melbourne , Australia
LA360
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master
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Posts: 6,187
Melbourne , Australia
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I'm just amazed that the front end is still "straight" and not bent up to the sky. Removing the inner fenders takes all the structural integrity away and I don't see any front stringers from the roll bar/cage. Funny how they cut the inner fenders out in the effort to save weight but the super heavy drum brakes are still there! I was told that a lot of the Stock Eliminator guys rans drum brakes all round, as they had less drag?
Alan Jones
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: LA360]
#2957227
08/25/21 10:14 AM
08/25/21 10:14 AM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,530
Marion, South Carolina [><]
an8sec70cuda
I Live Here
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I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,530
Marion, South Carolina [><]
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I'm just amazed that the front end is still "straight" and not bent up to the sky. Removing the inner fenders takes all the structural integrity away and I don't see any front stringers from the roll bar/cage. Funny how they cut the inner fenders out in the effort to save weight but the super heavy drum brakes are still there! I was told that a lot of the Stock Eliminator guys rans drum brakes all round, as they had less drag? The drum brakes are lighter than the factory disc brakes too. Aftermarket brakes are a different story.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: moparx]
#2957303
08/25/21 01:28 PM
08/25/21 01:28 PM
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Posts: 4,841
Wichita
GY3
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master
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Wichita
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I get the whole "zero drag" thing, but even back then there were lightweight aftermarket alternatives.
25 lbs. per corner on the front is a lot to give up!
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
9.92 @ 135mph with a 350 shot of nitrous and 93 octane pump. 1.43 60 ft. 3,750 lbs.
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: GY3]
#2957352
08/25/21 04:17 PM
08/25/21 04:17 PM
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Posts: 8,816
fredericksburg,va
cudaman1969
Itch Nutz
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Itch Nutz
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,816
fredericksburg,va
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I get the whole "zero drag" thing, but even back then there were lightweight aftermarket alternatives.
25 lbs. per corner on the front is a lot to give up! The 9” drums on the front of the Duster are almost the same weight as the aftermarket disc. I know the disc stop better but at 120 on a 1/4 track its still easy to stop in plenty of time
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: Schultz62]
#2957363
08/25/21 05:00 PM
08/25/21 05:00 PM
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Posts: 289
St.Pete,Florida
lancer493
enthusiast
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enthusiast
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Posts: 289
St.Pete,Florida
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Yes, things happened differently at the dragstrip in the early 70's. Some scary things were raced by todays standards.I raced a 3200lb big block Nova, high 9's 140mph. It had 6cyl drum brakes w/metallic linings up front, with big Mopar drum brakes w/ organic linings in the rear. Thought it was the best of both worlds. Cheap, light and stopping was never a problem. No internet then to bounce around ideas and reviews of performance parts, just word of mouth and car magazines. Most stuff was put together with a large helping of used parts. You had to "TRY"stuff, money was spent trying to go fast. Most guys didn't have the money for the cylinder heads and work that it took for the horsepower of today.If it didn't make the car go faster ,it didn't get bought. If you wanted a real safe car, you borrowed Mom's. Hope that sheds some light for those not old enough to remember. The 9sec big block was all iron and all used parts except rings, bearings,gaskets, and a roller cam bought with an IRS refund. You can go fast on a budget, its just not as pretty. Bill
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: Rhinodart]
#2957382
08/25/21 05:47 PM
08/25/21 05:47 PM
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Posts: 1,927
Seaford, Va
Kindafast
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top fuel
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Posts: 1,927
Seaford, Va
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Hell , back quite a few years ago . I had a 66 Dart with a pretty warm 440 in it Dana out back with big drums and small 6cyl drum brakes on the front. Talk about and Eticket ride on the binders at a short shutdown track. It went .10.60s back then and 128.or so mph , No way I would do that now but it was cheap and I was bullet proof. LOL
6.50 @105.26
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Re: check out this old skool build
[Re: lancer493]
#2957729
08/26/21 05:51 PM
08/26/21 05:51 PM
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Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,816
fredericksburg,va
cudaman1969
Itch Nutz
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Itch Nutz
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,816
fredericksburg,va
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Yes, things happened differently at the dragstrip in the early 70's. Some scary things were raced by todays standards.I raced a 3200lb big block Nova, high 9's 140mph. It had 6cyl drum brakes w/metallic linings up front, with big Mopar drum brakes w/ organic linings in the rear. Thought it was the best of both worlds. Cheap, light and stopping was never a problem. No internet then to bounce around ideas and reviews of performance parts, just word of mouth and car magazines. Most stuff was put together with a large helping of used parts. You had to "TRY"stuff, money was spent trying to go fast. Most guys didn't have the money for the cylinder heads and work that it took for the horsepower of today.If it didn't make the car go faster ,it didn't get bought. If you wanted a real safe car, you borrowed Mom's. Hope that sheds some light for those not old enough to remember. The 9sec big block was all iron and all used parts except rings, bearings,gaskets, and a roller cam bought with an IRS refund. You can go fast on a budget, its just not as pretty. Bill Almost had forgot about those metallic brake shoes. Back then when we where racing none of that other stuff mattered. Now it’s everybody’s obsession, like the street cars today. Big radio, big tires, nine shocks for each wheel, power steering, calipers the size of suitcases and don’t forget the AC blowing cold. Truth be known that car is as safe as a small tire 1800 HP turbo-nitrous car today.
Last edited by cudaman1969; 08/26/21 05:52 PM.
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