Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run?
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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06/10/21 07:56 AM
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The fact is, not all machine shops produce top quality work....... that’s just the way it is.
Aint that the truth! I have 3 engine projects going right now. Two of them were brought to me after work had already begun. Guess which is the only one that hasn't had to have corrective machining and/or major parts replacement done? It's shameful the quality of work that some shops churn out. The machine shop I use is more expensive than some others around here, but it's well worth it. I can't imagine bolting an engine together w/o measuring EVERYTHING properly. The mentality of looking both ways before crossing a one way street applies here, lol.
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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run?
[Re: metallicareload]
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06/11/21 01:10 PM
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I've bought and used a bunch of new and used heads, none of the new ones, Indy, Edlebrocks or 440 Source had to issues with the guides and valve stems being to tight Maybe I've been lucky Or maybe not anal enough
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run?
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06/11/21 11:34 PM
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""But, does anyone sell a ready to bolt on and go aluminum head?""
I bought a set of Sidewinder heads from Todd which were advertised as ready to run. I bolted them on and I have had zero issues. I think that if you buy them from a pro vendor who advertises them as ready to go, you should be fine. But I would not buy a complete set of heads from a parts store and assume that they are ready to run.
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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run?
[Re: dthemi]
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06/15/21 09:45 AM
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It took me a minute to see exactly what’s going on there....... then I could see the lap line.
That’s pretty “nice”.
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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run?
[Re: dthemi]
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06/15/21 06:10 PM
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Trick flow are the nicest finished in the box head I have ever seen. I see them for Ford at engine systems all the time, and a couple mopes here and there. Every set I've seen look like the next. Very high quality VJ, and guide work. Most box heads make me nervous enough to pull them apart to check. Not TF. I think summit owns them now so no lack of funding.
Just for reference, a friend just bought a set of INDY hemi heads complete. I'll post a pic of how bad the VJ was. Took sinking the valve .03!!! to fix them. Most were only contacting the seats about half way around. Like they did the guides after the VJ lol.
The valve only made contact where the sharpe mark is. I guess that's indy's variable compression option. Increase spring pressure till the valve seats I sent this to my machinist. He has a failed Hemi build in the shop now with a set of Indy heads just like that. He thought the previous hacker that built the engine had produced that kind of work. I told him they probably came out of the box like that. He's a firm believer in if it comes out of a box, it's fk'd up but would not believe you could buy something THAT messed up. Kevin
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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run?
[Re: hp383]
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08/08/21 11:00 PM
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In case you're still looking, consider Marsh Performance Sidewinder heads. I got a set last winter. Took me YEARS to decide to pull the trigger and do what you are considering. Todd the machine shop owner is very good to work with and swapped out the springs to what I wanted at no charge. I did pay extra for him to bowl blend and clean up the castings. The fact that this was going to be done at his machine shop before being sent to me was the dealmaker. This combination is becoming hard to find, at least in Florida anyway. My very picky and knows his stuff engine man was impressed with the heads. He didn't need to re-do anything.
Wow, what a difference in performance from the plain ol' 3 angle valve job 452's that were on her before! I am very happy.
Take a look. Mighty pretty, huh?!
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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run?
[Re: AndyF]
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08/09/21 10:43 AM
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Indy is infamous for their horrible valve jobs. I think most engine builders have learned by now that Indy ships heads complete just to save space. They don't intend the heads to be run out of the box, they assume that you'll take them apart and have them machined properly before putting them back together. Trick Flow heads come ready to run out of the box although it doesn't hurt to pull them apart and double check everything. Andy, Is this still true since the new owners took over? Thanks, Bill
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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run?
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bad fishy,those marsh heads looks like mopar performance p5153524,on another note has anyone used these mp heads before They’re not MP - no MP casting number. Pretty sure they are the same castings as ProMaxx, but not stamped as ProMaxx on the ends.
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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run?
[Re: BadFishy]
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08/09/21 09:07 PM
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bad fishy,those marsh heads looks like mopar performance p5153524,on another note has anyone used these mp heads before They’re not MP - no MP casting number. Pretty sure they are the same castings as ProMaxx, but not stamped as ProMaxx on the ends. ProMax buys their heads as raw as possible and they do their own seat, valve guides, and valve job work. I had a set of small block heads on my flowbench that a friend bought and they are very nice.
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