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Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? #2931391
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I am considering investing in some aluminum heads. The cost to rework the 452 or 906 heads I have may be better put towards a set of aluminum.

But, does anyone sell a ready to bolt on a go aluminum head? I know several sell complete heads, but I have seen many posts about having to have them torn apart and checked, or reworked before they can actually be used.

I know Edelbrock, 440source, and one other company (the name escapes me) sell complete heads, I just want to be sure I spend wisely if I go that route.


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: hp383] #2931393
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10’s of thousands of heads are pulled out of the box every year and ran, mostly with good results. Would I do it?? ? Heck no but then again I can check my own stuff. I had a buddies set of ProMax small block heads partially apart and was impressed enough to call him and talk to him. They are bought as rare as possible and done in-house but then again this was 4-5 years ago. The valve jobs and guilds were beautiful on these heads but I didn’t check every hole as it was a freebe job. TrickFlow stuff is very nice too but someone on this site just found a crack


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2931404
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I know plenty of people who bought 440source heads and just bolted them on and ran great

Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: FastmOp] #2931406
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Without a doubt, Trick Flow heads. If someone claims a crack in a trick flow head I would want to see evidence. I hate hearsay. For street use the 240 are great already CNC ported and ready to run.

Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: merpar] #2931410
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Originally Posted by merpar
Without a doubt, Trick Flow heads. If someone claims a crack in a trick flow head I would want to see evidence. I hate hearsay. For street use the 240 are great already CNC ported and ready to run.


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: merpar] #2931411
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Originally Posted by merpar
Without a doubt, Trick Flow heads. If someone claims a crack in a trick flow head I would want to see evidence. I hate hearsay. For street use the 240 are great already CNC ported and ready to run.


No hearsay.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...ick-flow-190-heads-fail.html#Post2931285

Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: justinp61] #2931463
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I'm not sure anyone makes a major component that I would just bolt on & go.
Anything worth doing is worth checking over and making sure it's right.

Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: topside] #2931474
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Dwayne has told me before he would have no issues running Trick flow stuff. Guides tend to be a hair snug, but well within spec. Ready to bolt on out of the box...


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The BBM Trickflow stuff I have seen has been pretty good.


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: LA360] #2931484
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bigger question is can you find anything that you can actually buy right now!


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: furious70] #2931529
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I've bought 440 source stealth heads back in 2009 or so. Ran for a year than upgraded to 10 degree locks. Around 2014/15 or so than had them hand ported and new valve springs installed since I had 3 inner springs that were broken. Ran them another handful of years til I Bought a set of Trick Flow 240s in 2019. My dad bought a a set of Trick Flow 190s this past winter. We've also had 2 sets of small black Edelbrock RPM heads that have been issue free. We do give the heads a good visual look over, but don't tear them completely apart. We go to 20+ races a year so we run our stuff. Would it be a bad idea to tear stuff down and check out everything out, absolutely not, but I'm sure there's more guys that bolt them right on than have them checked out.

Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: DusterKid] #2931535
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I sent a pair of Trick Flow 240’s to Dwayne to check out and inspect.....he said they were good to go the way they were. Guides were right on. Springs, retainers and locks...high quality. They are running as expected.....very well.

I have also run RPMs since 2004 and changed springs to suit my cams, and they are still running great till this day.

And, i have a set of 440 Source non-cnc ported heads that i changed out all the hardware and springs for an upgrade. Those are home ported and also run great.


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: topside] #2931538
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Originally Posted by topside
I'm not sure anyone makes a major component that I would just bolt on & go.
Anything worth doing is worth checking over and making sure it's right.


This man gets it.


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: hp383] #2931555
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I thought the Edelbrock Victor JR 426 Hemi heads were pretty nice.
Stem to guide clearance seemed a little loose which I guess I'd prefer to too tight.

The only thing I didn't care for was a few of the spark plug holes were tapped
a little bit roughly. A few plug changes will naturally chase the threads so it is no big deal,
but it seemed almost like the machine was running too fast, the tap needed
to be replaced, or something like that. But no big deal.

They're for a different engine and nobody has them in stock anyway, so I'll crawl back under my rock.


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: ZIPPY] #2931590
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i wouldn't take a chance on having "a few spark plug changes" taking care of suspicious plug threads.
a plug chasing tap [not a "cutting/making threads" tap] is cheap, and i would use one to clean up the threads before i put in plugs. especially on aluminum heads.
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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: justinp61] #2931606
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I have been humbled. I seen the post with pics of the small block Trick Flow head with the casting crack after my reply.

Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: hp383] #2931737
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Here’s a little perspective.......

Think of all the aftermarket heads GMPP sells.

Think of all the crate engines GMPP sells.

Do you think they have a team of people “going through” their head assemblies before installing them on those crate engines?
And many of those crate engines are sealed engines for use in various oval track series.

Right out of the crate and into the race car.

There are several series in this area that use them. It’s pretty rare for them to ever have a problem with a cylinder head that isn’t owner induced(severely overheated).

It’s one thing to have the heads gone thru if you looking for a little more performance, and some modifications will be performed.

And you may even find a little thing or two you don’t love......... but it’s pretty rare to find something that would actually cause a “problem”.

Generally, if the spring package installed on whatever heads you’re looking at is suitable for the cam you’ll be using........it’s not crazy to use them ootb.

Through the years, I’ve seen the occasional “prepped” heads where I felt like they were likely better before the “prep”.

The fact is, not all machine shops produce top quality work....... that’s just the way it is.
So, depending on where you’re having the work done........ they may end up better than ootb....... then again, maybe they won’t.


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But yet it happens. Do ya feel lucky? Well do yaaaaa.


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2931781
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer


But yet it happens. Do ya feel lucky? Well do yaaaaa.


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Re: Aluminum Heads - Does anyone sell a true ready to run? [Re: justinp61] #2931801
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My RPMs were ok as far as guides and installed heights went but the valve job was awful. Not won't run awful but nothing that was going to live long term as far as street miles were concerned.

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