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Re: Iron or Aluminum? [Re: BIG BEAR] #294984
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what kind of power are you looking for to need a billet block?

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When i asked about a billit block at LSM it was around 7000-9000$

You save in wieght but get the strength of iron. Don't have to worry as much about the main walls cracking (or anythng cracking)

I'n truck pulling most use iron blocks cause they do make more power but the billet will match the strength (i think)

For truck pulling the hp range is 1200-1500hp N/A in 650ci engines.

I just like the idea of all the options you can have with a Billet set up

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what kind of power are you looking for to need a billet block?


I would not need a billet block , 375-T6 aluminum would be just fine. Oh yea 60mm cam bearings and 250 raised cam please. Im thinking 1300 - 1400 hp.

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If you need that kind of power and that strenght why
not use our iron block, I know its heavy, but it's less than half the cost?

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Im not familiar with 375 aluminum, but the oversize cam and raised location are doable. Some of our(in stock)iron blocks have the roller cam option.At their current location you can fit a 4.5+ stroke no problem.sorry 4.75+

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Does you're iron block have the 4.840BS option? Cause thats what i really need, oh with raised cam, mains priority oiling, and a 55 or 66mm cam would be nice

Also need the ability to put my 5inch stroke crank in her

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The casting can except a 4.84 bs but all the ones we have now in stock are standard bs

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If you need that kind of power and that strenght why
not use our iron block, I know its heavy, but it's less than half the cost?


I did talk to you guys at Norwalk 2 years ago and looked at your blocks you had on display, very nice stuff. But I think I would come up short on HP even with the best heads on the market with 4.80 bore center blocks and heads. With the mopar pro-stock heads 1300 - 1400 HP should not be a problem.

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Im not familiar with 375 aluminum, but the oversize cam and raised location are doable. Some of our(in stock)iron blocks have the roller cam option.At their current location you can fit a 4.5+ stroke no problem.sorry 4.75+


Sorry, 357-T6

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The Koffels have just repaired one of our blocks, using thier heads(im not sure wich ones, but I know its not the 4.84 bs ones)and its right in that hp range.The mule engine we had on display made around 1,050 hp, a little less than your looking for but it is only 593ci and has the B1 origials on it.

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the engine that Koffels just rebuilt was making that kind of horse on motor but I believe they are going to throw some juice at it.

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the engine that Koffels just rebuilt was making that kind of horse on motor but I believe they are going to throw some juice at it.


Not to say it cant be done, but man o man 1300-1400 HP NA race gas with 4.80 bore centers. Im not sure the B1-TS heads with 4.80 BS could support those numbers.

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I know were aiming for 1200-1250hp with our 636ci with B1-TS heads alchy injected (1300 should be doable with some EXTRA nice stuff)

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Thats what they tell me the numbers are and I know for a fact its our block and it isnt a 4.84 bs because we have'nt machined any yet.

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should'nt be a problem at all!

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I think they are racing with that very engine this weekend

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HemiFred do you have this combo?

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an unskirted block ala chevy with splayed main bolts would offer better oil control in the pan area




Then they will have to make a pan and timing cover for it also ???

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the buyer for $1500 blocks will be buying $599 dollar cranks and $369 rods .




That's probably true. But, there are guys who sell a lot of $899 heads, $599 dollar cranks, and $369 rods.

And, after spending $$$ on having a block bored/decked/line honed for a buildup, it kinda' frosts me to think that by changing (after machining the block... ) to better heads and roller cam, I should have stepped up to a short fill in the jackets, aluminum caps, and a girdle so I could go even farther yet.

Yeah, I'd be in the market for a good $1500 block if I were starting over.

Oh, BTW, if the OP wants to get down with the low-budget block, I'd have cared less if it had internal oil pickup (bet most guys buying the block wouldn't use it); would expect a lot of guys would like a second set of holes drilled in the bellhousing flange. How many guys run glides - quite a few.



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Seduce the attractive, and charm the rest. ****** 489 C.I.D., roller cam, aftermarket heads, tunnel ram, stock '54 Dodge rear axle assembly: which of these doesn't belong?
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