It will be interesting to find out whether the problems are because the cars are electric or because they are Fords.


www.motorbiscuit.com/6-ford-mach-e-...v7oBuyzn-qpSPhyiXHLd0-063jCfv4dF36kM_TVM

FORD = Fix or Repair Daily, Found on Road Dead, Flat Out Retarded Drivers

Fuccked On Raw Deal....

I am going to say the switchover is going to be a learning experience for all and they will likely learn from each others mistakes,
nothing new or brand related IMO

a question - in our cars, we have an alternator that keeps our battery charged - why can't they rig up something similar to continually charge the batteries of an elec vehicle.??

Hey, just wait until the grids can't keep up with all this green magic.
Then, not only are our tax dollars supporting this BS, but our power will be cut as well.

"There is nothing quite as enjoyable as watching other people's problems.....from a distance."

(author unknown)

I've said this from the get-go. I guess it depends on how much of a draw they command.
Our grid is weakened from our coal-fired generation being slowly diminished. (this was your base power source). Not sure how much gas powered plants can replace it, and we all know if it's raining and/or the wind's not blowing...............

Typical of government they have the "we'll cross that bridge when we come to it" kind of mindset.

Too much regen is a simple SW fix. The SW engineers just didn't think of that failure mode when they coded the regen function. Looks like the reliability guys also failed to fully test that function. Typical new platform bugs.

Perpetual motion machine! Better go file a patent for it, you'll be rich.

Why not just toss a small honda generator in the trunk? It could kick in when the battery gets down to something like 25% and charge some while driving either to just extend your range a little or fully charge when the grid can't keep up... some are very quiet, just rout the exhaust out the back somewhere, give it a fresh air duct for cooling and there you go. If the manufacturer wanted to incorporate one they could make it run at a fixed RPM and load so they can design it to be very efficient

The problem isn't that the cars are running out of juice because there isn't enough potentially available - it's that the un(der)controlled regenerative braking can create so much battery charging that the batteries get too hot and cannot be recharged and conk out. This will be a remote software fix and should be done soon. Clearly, the bench and real-world testing did not cover this scenario. We learn as we go.

Isn't that the original Chevy Volt concept?

Are you suggesting the Moparts cognoscenti are missing the mark?

This is correct ---- the Chevy Volt utilized a small ICE power plant to assist in charging the battery pack. This seemed to work quite well and helped with alleviating range anxiety in the early Volts. The costs associated with this approach are considerably higher than the more simplified standard EV.

I knew an early Volt owner who commuted about 45 miles round trip M-F. He showed me records of his gasoline usage for the ICE assist for a year. It was almost nothing spent on gasoline....

It seems that the fix is so simple that it is only going to take Ford 3 months to do it.

"Annie Sønsteby, Ford Norway information director, says the Mustang Mach-E braking issues can be handled with an over-the-air fix. Unfortunately, with Ford, that means you still have to take it into a dealership to get it. So, maybe Ford should just call it a “software update at the dealer” update instead. The good news is that the over-the-air updates will be starting around October 2021. So it will be happening, just not now. "

Those run on gas.

Running on gas would be entirely too simple.

Haven't trains been running on electric motors charged by diesel engines for multiple decades? If this is the case, why does none of these companies realize a diesel engine can be smaller than a gas engine and be way more economical?

Problem already solved! FF to 2:30

Agreed. Sucks it happened, but it is a pretty extreme use case I imagine.

Can’t get more power out than you put in. Has to be a loss in some way. Works out when you are burning gas.

Just slap a sticker on it that says something to the effect of not Pikes Peak certified.

It's still fossil fuel....the greenies will have none of that. Have any of those folks figured out how to fly a jetliner on electric??

And if they do, will the flying public be test dummies like the Ford Estang owners are?

I have been wondering and asking this myself for years.

No doubt a windmill mounted on top of the car would solve all those problems.....

Has anyone ever seen a battery swell up from overcharging when a VR fails? Picture that on a larger scale.

Yep! I play with RC cars running Lithium Polymer(Lipo) batteries. They get ugly if not treated right and go up in flames in a hurry(Google lipo fires) Those packs are only 12-14 volts.......imagine on a much bigger scale as stated!!!!!

Must be very extreme. The battery packs do have coolers in them... Mu be a lot of heat built up in them due to driving conditions. I am in line to take the ford battery class, when it is closer to me then Chicago.. I declined it that time, lol..Maybe I'll take Cincinnati. Kevin