Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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On my 67 Coronet drag car with a 1/4" plate, would not fit either. I ended up with a remote pump.
67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph 67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph 69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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I had two BB A-body cars with Meziere's mounted on front of the motor, thick motor-plates, big radiators and large twin shrouded fans on the engine side. Basically the same thing with the new car as well.
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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On my cuda the big Meziere pump won't fit. I use the Meziere pump that drops into the stock style water pump housing. I have a big Griffin radiator (2 rows of 1.25" tubes) and an electric fan/shroud combo off of a 2003 dodge viper.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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Used a BB mezierie pump, 3/8 plate, alternator, vacuum pump, behind a Be-Cool radiator and SPAL Fans. My water pump maybe clears the fans by 1/4 inch in the front. Its a lot of stuff in a small space. Figuring out the engine plate forward was probably one of the most time consuming aspects of this project. Making spacers, finding belts/pulleys to make it all work. I don't think i could have used a shroud or any thicker fans i would have had interference. Luckily the water pump snout dropped dead center where the fans met and had most clearance.
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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On my cuda the big Meziere pump won't fit. I use the Meziere pump that drops into the stock style water pump housing. I have a big Griffin radiator (2 rows of 1.25" tubes) and an electric fan/shroud combo off of a 2003 dodge viper. The total mounting depth is less with the O.E. housing and electric pump? The pump from Meziere is 6.8" for 35gpm and 7.25 for 55gpm. I was wanting to use the 35 since I have it but Meziere recommends the 55gpm for high hp street cars. = less room!
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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On my cuda the big Meziere pump won't fit. I use the Meziere pump that drops into the stock style water pump housing. I have a big Griffin radiator (2 rows of 1.25" tubes) and an electric fan/shroud combo off of a 2003 dodge viper. The total mounting depth is less with the O.E. housing and electric pump? The pump from Meziere is 6.8" for 35gpm and 7.25 for 55gpm. I was wanting to use the 35 since I have it but Meziere recommends the 55gpm for high hp street cars. = less room! I was trying to fit the 55 gpm pump and the measurement I had was bigger than my current setup...it would interfere w/ my electric fan. It is a single fan in the center of the radiator.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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Put the fan on the grill side of the radiator and make it push. Instead of the engine side. Problem solved. . In my particular application, that won't work. I'd have to use a different fan setup.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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07/14/21 07:18 PM
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HemiDart68, your using Spal fans without a shroud to make it fit? Yes sir, two SPAL puller fans. No shroud. Really large Be-Cool radiator, meziere with no restrictor or thermostat. I use Be-Cool coolant on the street. Never hints at overheating.
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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trying to find a photo, this is the closest i have to showing that view
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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07/15/21 12:25 PM
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I'll get the radiator ordered and trim the fan housings a bit as PolyDart did, worst case I'll have to get a remote pump.
Thanks guys!
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Re: Meziere water pump on bb
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07/15/21 12:37 PM
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I have the SD Meziere in an aluminum housing, 2 1" row radiator from Speed Cooling, and AR Engine Plate. It's close, but fits. IMG_2429 by Greg Ault, on Flickr IMG_2430 by Greg Ault, on Flickr
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