Re: Tim Banning vs Ray Barton
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Pete tells me 13:1 is the sweet spot for these Hemi’s. My plan was 12:1 and I’m now thinking just build it with 13:1 and live with it. I don’t mind mixing fuel as I do it now with my 12.5:1 511 wedge. Looking like CP will be the piston if a can find a shelf piston for this. Once I get the heads I can cc the chambers and intake to get a better idea on the compression and cam. I doubt you are going to want to run anything less than straight 110 at 13 to 1 I had CP slugs in an old build. Sweet slugs. Very nice. Best did that motor, was very happy with it
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: Tim Banning vs Ray Barton
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06/02/21 08:49 PM
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Best (Chuck) built my 540" B1 motor16 yrs ago, (pre-Pete) and did a fantastic job. Best is more than capable for the HEMI.
My brother-n-law had FHO build his new all alum (KB block) 572" HEMI pump gasser last year for his '69 Super Bee streeter with a Passion 4-Speed. Its a complete animal when matted, and super tame under normal driving conditions. I drove the hell out of it this past Christmas. He raved about Tim's outstanding customer service, and more importantly how customer service was after the purchase.
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Re: Tim Banning vs Ray Barton
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06/03/21 11:13 AM
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I use a Callies Magnum crank, billet steel Oliver rods, and Diamond pistons. I went with better parts b/c I knew I'd end up spraying it eventually. If it wasn't for the nitrous, I'd have probably used something like Molnar for the bottom end. My thoughts on compression is do one or the other...meaning either use strictly pump gas or strictly race gas. Mixing fuels is a PITA and gets old quick. Keep it in the 11:1 range for pump gas or go 13:1 or better if you don't mind race fuel. FWIW...mine is making somewhere in the 850 hp range on pump gas w/ cnc ported MP heads (probably the closest thing to a stock heads in aluminum), 4.5" stroke, standard cam height and timing chain, etc. Pretty boring as far as big inch hemis go, but I can't argue w/ the results. It's been almost 142 mph in the 1/4 on motor only, on pump gas, and over 3800 lbs..
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Re: Tim Banning vs Ray Barton
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06/03/21 01:15 PM
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He was considering 13-1 which is why I asked as it would work well for that.
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Re: Tim Banning vs Ray Barton
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06/03/21 03:01 PM
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I think Al Aguire (sp) is selling a HEMI with many of the things you are looking for .... maybe not exactly what you want , but get what you need Yeah what he said....Be happy to let you come get it
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Re: Tim Banning vs Ray Barton
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06/03/21 04:37 PM
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What about Indy? They’re under new ownership & have moved to a larger facility.
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Re: Tim Banning vs Ray Barton
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06/04/21 02:33 AM
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I’m running 4.75 Callis crank with Oliver rods. Indy Max aluminum block, cnc Indy SR heads, 11:1 compression. It went 10.15@133 in 100 degree Arizona heat the first pass on the new engine and suspension on 91 octane and very conservative timing. Waiting for the Indian tribe that owns the land the track is on to lift the COVID mask mandate to go back. We’re already 100+, probably wait until the fall. The track is on a reservation?
China is the enemy.
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