Re: stearing couper
[Re: calrobb2000]
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05/16/21 09:21 PM
05/16/21 09:21 PM
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Mopar quit selling the ONLY coupler rebuild kits they offered, for 66 and up couplers, about a year ago now. So I spent a TON of time making myself a semi expert on these because I was investigating having these made. I bought about 15 columns and couplers from 62-76. I bought a press to press the pins from the column shaft. It takes TONS of force. Cheapest way is like a $60 Harbor Freight 6T press. I purchased name brand ID and OD micrometers accurate to .0001 (ouch). I measured and documented every coupler I disassembled. What I found was... 1) The Dorman kits are sloppier by a magnitude than any of the couplers I disassembled. If I didn't buy 5 Dorman kits for research purposes and instead bought them for use on my car I would have been pissed. 2) All the couplers I disassembled had wear on the pins and shoes that was within +/- .0003 of the TIGHT tolerance range I found in the 40 brand new, genuine Mopar coupler rebuild kits I had in stock (only have 2 now. Nope, not for sale). And nope, .0003" is NOT a typo. Thats ten thousandths of an inch. Basically NO WEAR AT ALL was found on any of the 15 couplers I had. So rebuilding with a new Mopar kit might make you feel better but a couple TENTHS would never make any noticeable difference, would cost you a press that would waste room in your garage and burn off an afternoon and at our age we dont have many of those left. Clean the old parts, pack with grease and reassemble. PS Some genuine Mopar kits are out there but rare. I see scammers on Ebay selling Dormans as Mopar kits. Be careful. The 66 and up kits will work in the 62-65 couples. You just have to reuse the stamped steel spring that spreads the shoes from the 62-65 coupler. Not the one that comes with the new Mopar kit. https://www.detroitmuscletechnologies.com/blog/mopar-steering-coupler-info/https://www.detroitmuscletechnologi...mn-coupler-internals-no-need-to-replace/
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Re: stearing couper
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05/17/21 01:57 PM
05/17/21 01:57 PM
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Interesting.
I'm agree on the wear on them is close to NOTHING, however the spring failure is a big deal what will make you to get a new full set just for that. Would be nice a kit with the seal, retainer and spring
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: stearing couper
[Re: NachoRT74]
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05/17/21 08:56 PM
05/17/21 08:56 PM
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Okay, I'm on board with the free fix, what causes the play in the coupler then? I always thought the sliders wore out?
Mo' Farts
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Re: stearing couper
[Re: Grizzly]
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05/18/21 10:12 PM
05/18/21 10:12 PM
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Okay, I'm on board with the free fix, what causes the play in the coupler then? I always thought the sliders wore out? Show me a coupler with "play" in it. I'll buy it from you. The "play" is in the steering box, the pitman arm, idler arm, tie rod ends..... Hell, the flex just in the steering box mount on the K frame is SHOCKING. A couple TEN THOUSANDTHS of slop in the coupler is picking fly shi* out of pepper
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Re: stearing couper
[Re: 71TA]
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05/19/21 02:59 AM
05/19/21 02:59 AM
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Hello! I'm here! I'm talking!
BROKEN SPRING will make the play. With broken spring the shoes will spin and won't get the coupler walls. Two reasons for play.
BTDT
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: stearing couper
[Re: NachoRT74]
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05/19/21 12:05 PM
05/19/21 12:05 PM
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The play when you grab the mainshaft and it clunks up and down?
Mo' Farts
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Re: stearing couper
[Re: Grizzly]
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05/19/21 03:33 PM
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If just the seal, ( along with the seal retainer ) and spring will need to be replaced and you don't care a RED seal ( I don't ) the Dorrman kit on $5-8 should be enough
With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela
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Re: stearing couper
[Re: 440newport]
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05/19/21 09:37 PM
05/19/21 09:37 PM
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The grease nipple does help extend the life of them, I did that little mod on my '86 4x4 after replacing the second one.
The reason they wear out on the 4x4's quickly is a different issue. It's a simple fix though.
Mo' Farts
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