Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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Many manifolds with a heat cross over passage will have it contacting any flat valley cover.
If you place the manifold on a bench, and the heat crossover holds the runners from touching the bench, you can plan of having to remove that material off the bottom of it, enough so that the runners are what touches the bench first.
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Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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I tossed the intake onto a length of 2x6 and I see what you mean. I'll just take the intake to my friend's place and have him mill the underside down a bit, or just get another intake without the crossover.
Just placed the order at Hughes.
@fast68plymouth and @AndyF, thanks for the replies.
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Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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It's a work of art. You'll be upset when you cover it with an intake manifold. Judging from the other various pieces I've purchased from Andy you're absolutely right.
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Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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There is no heat crossover passage on the RPM heads, so you can remove that whole thing off the bottom of the manifold without any problems as a result.
If this is for your stroker, there is likely some power to be gained by using a “better” manifold.
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Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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If this is for your stroker, there is likely some power to be gained by using a “better” manifold. Got any recommendations? I was looking at the TF single plane, but it's rated from 3000 to 7000 RPM, or is this rating not mean as much when being used with a stroker?
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Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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The overall combo is certainly a factor on what the actual operating range will be. On a mild build like yours, it’s obviously not going to make power to 7k.
So, you’ll likely lose some bottom end, and pick up in the middle somewhere. It wouldn’t be my first choice for a combo like that, but there aren’t a lot of options if you’re looking to buy new.
I’d probably run the M1 single plane if I had the choice, but you’ll be looking for a used one.
I don’t have a feel for how the EFI affects the way a manifold behaves on the motor, since it’s not reliant on the way the manifold/carb/carb signal interaction affects the power curve.
My gut feeling is, the low speed manners of a higher rpm manifold are better with EFI than what you’d get with a carburetor sitting on it.
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Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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Yeah, it's certainly a nice piece. Fits the heads great too.
Now I got to figure out if I'm going to toss the Eddie intake on my buddy's mill or pick up the Trick Flow.
Anyone have any ideas how the combo will respond going from one to other? Torker 383 single plane to Trick Flow single plane.
Fairly mild build. 512 low deck stroker, 230@.050" roller cam, 10.5:1 and 3.54 gears, Sniper EFI.
Thanks again.
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Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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The Trick Flow intake would pick up some power over that Torker intake but you might not notice the difference on a street car. You would see the difference in a race car but street cars tend to do most of their driving at part throttle. The Trick Flow intake does look a lot tougher than the old Torker so it has that going for it. But it is pretty tall and doesn't fit under most flat hoods. Do you think there would be a noticeable loss down low? The thing makes me hesitant is the advertised RPM range of 3-7k. Thanks.
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Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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I'm sold on it, but of course nobody has any stock. The low deck version is out at Summit, Mancini, Hughes and TF. Time to call my friend have him him mill the torker.
Thanks everyone!
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Re: Solid valley plate - AR300A
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Yeah, that is the practical argument! If there aren't any in stock then no point in agonizing over the decision. Run what you have until you find what you really want. Andy are the Indy low deck single plane intakes with the standard size port any good? I have one I've never tried to compare it to my M1 intake.
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