Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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Is it? If he started in December of 2014 does that count as one year? If he quit his job in January of '15 do you Geniuses call that a full year? If he got fired in January of 2019 does '19 count as one year as well? Please. In order to claim 1 year of work experience it goes: '14 to '15 is one year, '15 to '16 is two, '16 to '17 is three, '17 to '18 is four, and '18 to '19 is five. It's just burns the Mo' Farts to no end when I'm right.
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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In order to claim 1 year of work experience it goes: '14 to '15 is one year, '15 to '16 is two, '16 to '17 is three, '17 to '18 is four, and '18 to '19 is five.
If he started in December of 2014 and he quit his job in January of 2015 do you call that a full year? Because according to what you wrote it does. If he only worked 364 days is that a year? At what point does it count or not count? We can play the nitpicking game right back at you. You're wrong and too chickenshit to admit it.
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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Is it? If he started in December of 2014 does that count as one year? If he quit his job in January of '15 do you Geniuses call that a full year? If he got fired in January of 2019 does '19 count as one year as well? Please. In order to claim 1 year of work experience it goes: '14 to '15 is one year, '15 to '16 is two, '16 to '17 is three, '17 to '18 is four, and '18 to '19 is five. It's just burns the Mo' Farts to no end when I'm right. Dude, why don't you give it a friggin rest! Who knows exactly when it started and when it ended. 5 years 6 years, who gives a flyin f..k!!! If it makes you feel better, yes you are always right...We can now all bow down to the almighty great one.
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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Scam began in 2014. That is year 1 of the scam. Scam ended in 2019. That is year 6. Your calculation excludes 2014. He's probably too busy trying to be an azz here on Moparts to actually learn how to do basic math. His replies here are just like all his others here on Moparts. And just when have you contributed anything of any use on this site? I certainly can't recall anything. You're just pouting because you called me out, you don't know what you're talking about, and I corrected you. Life's tough, move on.
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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Is it? If he started in December of 2014 does that count as one year? If he quit his job in January of '15 do you Geniuses call that a full year? If he got fired in January of 2019 does '19 count as one year as well? Please. In order to claim 1 year of work experience it goes: '14 to '15 is one year, '15 to '16 is two, '16 to '17 is three, '17 to '18 is four, and '18 to '19 is five. It's just burns the Mo' Farts to no end when I'm right. Or, if he started january 1st of '14 and got fired in december 31 of '15 is that only one year? Goes both ways, without knowing exact dates bickering back and forth is just like peeing in the wind (my kid did that one time, wasn't pleasant for anyone around him).
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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The only person pouting here is you because you've shown to everyone that basic math is beyond you and that angers you.
You then attack people just like you usually do on here.
Seek professional help with your anger issues, you might start enjoying life if you do that.
Well, Genius, still waiting for you to address my first point to you:
You're misreading or misinterpreting what is stated in the article.
It says he sold 250 vehicles in January 2020 alone. He's been doing it since 2014, how many cars did he sell in that time frame????
If he sold 250 cars a month that would be 18,000 cars over 6 years. I'm not saying it was that many vehicles, but it shows the flaw in your math since it went on for 6 years not just one month. At least that's how I understood what the article says.
Using your numbers, the salesman's $700,000.00 earning figure that would mean he made $38.00 a vehicle. Using BSharps' numbers the earning is $200.00 a vehicle. Which do you think is more believable? How about it, Math Guy? Let's get to the part where you're wrong again and my Math is right.........just like the time frame issue. Does a car salesman really only make $38.00 a vehicle?
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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The only person pouting here is you because you've shown to everyone that basic math is beyond you and that angers you.
You then attack people just like you usually do on here.
Seek professional help with your anger issues, you might start enjoying life if you do that.
Well, Genius, still waiting for you to address my first point to you:
You're misreading or misinterpreting what is stated in the article.
It says he sold 250 vehicles in January 2020 alone. He's been doing it since 2014, how many cars did he sell in that time frame????
If he sold 250 cars a month that would be 18,000 cars over 6 years. I'm not saying it was that many vehicles, but it shows the flaw in your math since it went on for 6 years not just one month. At least that's how I understood what the article says.
Using your numbers, the salesman's $700,000.00 earning figure that would mean he made $38.00 a vehicle. Using BSharps' numbers the earning is $200.00 a vehicle. Which do you think is more believable? How about it, Math Guy? Let's get to the part where you're wrong again and my Math is right.........just like the time frame issue. Does a car salesman really only make $38.00 a vehicle? You obviously also have a reading comprehension problem also since I already stated I can't say that all the articles numbers are correct but the scam obviously went on for 6 years.
. You have serious anger issues along with obvious other educational issues. Seek professional mental help along with going back to elementary school.
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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How do those numbers add up? A 5% discount on a $50,000 vehicle is $2500, so he would have had to have sold almost 3500 of them to get to $8.7M in discounts. It sounds more like that was the purchase price of 250 vehicles, not the discounts. Your math is correct. That comes out to about $34,000.00 per vehicle......which if you factor in how much a Journey, Dart, V6 Charger or Miinivan average in price, you're bang on. You're misreading or misinterpreting what is stated in the article. It says he sold 250 vehicles in January 2020 alone. He's been doing it since 2014, how many cars did he sell in that time frame???? If he sold 250 cars a month that would be 18,000 cars over 6 years. I'm not saying it was that many vehicles, but it shows the flaw in your math since it went on for 6 years not just one month. At least that's how I understood what the article says. You're right, I didn't read it carefully enough. $8.7M in discounts / 0.05 discount per vehicle = $174,000,000 in total sales $174,000,000 / $40,000 average sale price = 4350 total vehicles sold over 5.5 years 4350 / 5.5 = 791 cars per year, or an average of 2.2 cars per day, every single calendar day for 5-1/2 years. Could he do that?
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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4350 / 5.5 = 791 cars per year, or an average of 2.2 cars per day, every single calendar day for 5-1/2 years. Could he do that?
Pfft, no doubt. I'm still waiting for Mo' Farts to believe the 250 cars in January (well known as the slowest month of the year in auto sales) tall tale is true. 250 cars divided by him working 6 days a week in January puts it at 10.4 cars a day. Yep, I'm sure that happened. AND, the Mo' Farts still hasn't clued into the fact that the friends/employees discount works out to like 16 cars allowed for every one of the 268 people used. Does anyone have a copy of one of those coupons? Does it say you are allowed to use it 16 times? lol. Like I said in the beginning: this is some poorly put together propaganda piece from tim the Idiot kunuskis.
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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How do those numbers add up? A 5% discount on a $50,000 vehicle is $2500, so he would have had to have sold almost 3500 of them to get to $8.7M in discounts. It sounds more like that was the purchase price of 250 vehicles, not the discounts. Your math is correct. That comes out to about $34,000.00 per vehicle......which if you factor in how much a Journey, Dart, V6 Charger or Miinivan average in price, you're bang on. You're misreading or misinterpreting what is stated in the article. It says he sold 250 vehicles in January 2020 alone. He's been doing it since 2014, how many cars did he sell in that time frame???? If he sold 250 cars a month that would be 18,000 cars over 6 years. I'm not saying it was that many vehicles, but it shows the flaw in your math since it went on for 6 years not just one month. At least that's how I understood what the article says. You're right, I didn't read it carefully enough. $8.7M in discounts / 0.05 discount per vehicle = $174,000,000 in total sales $174,000,000 / $40,000 average sale price = 4350 total vehicles sold over 5.5 years 4350 / 5.5 = 791 cars per year, or an average of 2.2 cars per day, every single calendar day for 5-1/2 years. Could he do that? It's been done before and then some. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_GirardKevin
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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05/08/21 04:34 AM
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4350 / 5.5 = 791 cars per year, or an average of 2.2 cars per day, every single calendar day for 5-1/2 years. Could he do that?
Pfft, no doubt. I'm still waiting for Mo' Farts to believe the 250 cars in January (well known as the slowest month of the year in auto sales) tall tale is true. 250 cars divided by him working 6 days a week in January puts it at 10.4 cars a day. Yep, I'm sure that happened. AND, the Mo' Farts still hasn't clued into the fact that the friends/employees discount works out to like 16 cars allowed for every one of the 268 people used. Does anyone have a copy of one of those coupons? Does it say you are allowed to use it 16 times? lol. Like I said in the beginning: this is some poorly put together propaganda piece from tim the Idiot kunuskis. Once again you show that you have no clue about numbers or anything pertaining to Employee Control Numbers. If it's 268 employees that get 6 Employee Control numbers ever year and after 6 years the total number Employee Control number that he could have fraudulently used would add up to a possible 9,648 control numbers. That's the actual math. 268 x 6 per year = 1608 x 6 years = 9648 possible control number used fraudulently. Another way to explain it is 268 employees with 36 control numbers each over a 6 year span still adds up to 9,648 possible control numbers used. The Mo' Fart with no clue here appears to be you.
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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So now you're trying to tell us one Employee is allowed to buy 6 vehicles a year. Prove it. :
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Re: FCA Out $8.7 Million Thanks To Dealer Using Fake Employee
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So now you're trying to tell us one Employee is allowed to buy 6 vehicles a year. Prove it. : As a Chrysler Retiree I know that every employee and retiree gets 6 employee control numbers and 6 friends control numbers every year. It's what I get and have available to me. Employee control number can be used by the employee or by family members (blood relatives or by marriage) . I've known of some Chrysler Employee's that bought a new vehicle 2 or 3 time a year themselves with the program. Scott Sieveking (Monster Mopar) would get a new truck every 6 months, he did that for several years. Friends control numbers can be given to anyone that wants them which is why I offer them to people here on Moparts if they want them. Does that explain it to a point where even someone as simple minded and with as many issues as you can understand it? Please seek professional help, you need it. Edit: If you actually want to educate yourself on the program click on this link. Employee Advantage Program for Vehicle purchasingSince reading the whole page may be a problem for you here's the last line of the page. Am I still eligible for the same number of vehicle discounts? Yes, you can still request up to six (6) EP control numbers andsix (6) Friends & Family control numbers per calendar year.
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