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Where are the VIN numbers stamp on a 1969 Road Runner #2916293
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I have a old drag race car that a new customer drop off for me to look at, it is really chop up missing the dash, the door post VIN tag, rear package tray, all the floor boards and rear sub frames. He has no title and wasn't told by the previous owner who had it for over 10 yrs what motor came in the car before he got it.
I want to help him find out which motor was in the car originally, 383, 426, 440 or? help
I don't work on cars usually or post on here. I only work on Mopar race motors and Hi Po pump gas street motors but this guy was told to bring it to me to look at the motor before starting it since it has set for over ten years since last run. He wants to drag race it here locally at our 1/8 mile track in Madras, OR and I am willing to help any racers as long as their racing Mopars.
All help appreciated on helping me help him, Thanks in advance thumbs


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Re: Where are the VIN numbers stamp on a 1969 Road Runner [Re: Cab_Burge] #2916298
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Look for #s on backside of upper rad support, facing the radiator.
Also under trunk weatherstrip at left quarter, towards the rear, stamped into the quarter weatherstrip flange.
Hemi car may have its unique K-frame, and gussets at ft & rear leaf spring mounts (sounds like no help there), snubber reinforcement, and plated 3-speed wiper motor (though that was an option for all).
Only '69 440 RR would be an A12 (aka 440+6, or "SixPack") - no hood hinges, hood pin supports.
OEM exhaust is likely long gone but also tells which engine; no H means 383, for example.
OEM fuel line size is also a clue, 5/16" = 383.
If underside of floor pans was originally black, L.A. build - all others grey.
There are a couple guys here that can decode even a partial VIN & tell the exact car you have.

Re: Where are the VIN numbers stamp on a 1969 Road Runner [Re: topside] #2916384
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9A would be the only one that would have a 440, it could also have a 383 or 426. If you see any other plant code (A is Lynch Rd), then it's not a 440.

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Originally Posted by MI_Custumz
9A would be the only one that would have a 440, it could also have a 383 or 426. If you see any other plant code (A is Lynch Rd), then it's not a 440.



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I forgot about the VIN # on the trunk lid being stamped there also, THANKS up
I tried to feel for the number on the radiator core support and couldn't so I will get a mirror today and look at it better from the bottom side.
I am under the impression that the 1968 RR where made only with the 383 and 426 motors, I ws tol dthat the 1969 had the 440 HP as well as the M code cars having the six pack option in mid year 1969, hence the 1969 1/2 model designation. True or not confused help
This car is really hack up whiney shruggy


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Re: Where are the VIN numbers stamp on a 1969 Road Runner [Re: Cab_Burge] #2916522
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Zero '69 RRs built with 440s, except for the A12 cars. Period.
No 440s in them for '68 either, and for '70, again only 440+6 cars and the Superbird.
Rad support # (it's a partial VIN) should be pretty obvious, unless there's a ton of paint or the upper yoke was replaced.
Heck, if the car's that cut up, it probably doesn't matter what it came with; odds are huge it was a 383 car, though.

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Originally Posted by topside
, it probably doesn't matter what it came with; odds are huge it was a 383 car, though.

If its a Road Runner!


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Rad support # (it's a partial VIN) should be pretty obvious, unless there's a ton of paint or the upper yoke was replaced


From my research LA built ('69) B-bodies had the "A9XXXXXX" last characters of the VIN stamped ON TOP of the radiator support on the drivers side NOT on the backside of the support. My LA built '69 GTX has it on top and I didn't know it, I had asked my friend to check for it as the car was in Texas and I had told him where it should be on the backside he came back and said he couldn't find it frown. I got nervous and disappointed but when I got to the car I found it on the top of the radiator support driver's side. Then I started to notice why the engine coolant label was off to the center of the top of the radiator support on LA cars and always more to the far driver's side of the support on St. Louis, Hamtramck and Lynch Road B-bodies.........so the LA B-body had the VIN where the other plants put the engine coolant info label if your looking for it.

This is where the coolant info label is, more toward the center of the rad support, on LA built cars and the VIN is toward the top side of the driver's side, (where the other plants put the coolant info label).

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Radiator support opening for 22" or 26" is a small clue to some point depending upon rear original axle ratio sometimes. Also if it has a power brake booster it will be off-set up and to the driver's side if it was a Hemi for the large Hemi valve covers. Not sure if all Hemi's got power brakes (booster)???

Torsion bars (end coding) were different for a Hemi if I'm not mistaken?

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The number on the trunk lip and on the back side, in front of the radiator, driver side of the core support, not on the bottom edge is G 9 168391 help
I look again at the door post and the rivet holes have been filled in with bondo, no tag vin though whiney
I'm wondering if this body was, is, a Satellite and not R.R. work shruggy it is a two door hardtop also. Which body is it?
Again thanks for all of your help on figuring out what this car really is so I can tell the owner thumbs

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Re: Where are the VIN numbers stamp on a 1969 Road Runner [Re: Cab_Burge] #2916558
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
The number on the trunk lip and on the back side, in front of the radiator, driver side of the core support, not on the bottom edge is G 9 168391 help
I look again at the door post and the rivet holes have been filled in with bondo, no tag vin though whiney
I'm wondering if this body was, is, a Satellite and not R.R. work shruggy it is a two door hardtop also. Which body is it?
Again thanks for all of your help on figuring out what this car really is so I can tell the owner thumbs


Well the "G" makes it a St. Louis assembly plant car so that's a little help as you can eliminate a Lynch Road only A12 440 6bbl car.

There's nothing I know of that was riveted on any door posts that would have a VIN in '69 only a compliance to FMVSS standards LABEL/DECAL on the driver's inside front door frame.

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Do the lower control arms (LCA) have swaybar link attachments or does it have a swaybar or not? Also on the driver's side with the rear seat cushion and seat back removed does it have a dual exhaust hanger plate for the left side dual exhaust that would only be on certain B-body V8 engine options?

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Does it have the original doors and front fenders?

And the original trunk lid?

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The only stock parts on this car are the front sub frame, radiator core support, and front suspension and main body shell, all others parts are non stock including the entire floor from the rear bumper forward, no part of the original firewall is left either whiney
Did the Lynch plant make all three styles of the B Bodies, GTX, R.R. and Satellite in 1969 ?

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Did the Lynch plant make all three styles of the B Bodies, GTX, R.R. and Satellite in 1969 ?


YES as far as I know.........also the Belvedere and B-body Taxi cabs etc. I think Lynch Road was the largest B-body production plant.....well they at least had some of the highest VIN's into the 300,000 sequence numbers.......don't know if that even means anything blush

But if you're saying you pulled a "G" from a trunk drip rail or the radiator support then most likely it is a St. Louis built B-body and you should keep going from there IMO.

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can you determine the original color?

the closest VIN I have for '69 St. Louis is a special order "99" paint Road Runner - these were sometimes assigned VINs in batches shruggy

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Is there any known spots on the front sub frame and or front suspension parts that would have complete vin # help
This car has been a drag car for a long time and may have been raced in Las Vegas years ago, red with a complete cage running low 9s is what the owner was told.
It was bought and brought up here to central Oregon and sat in a garage for over 5 yrs, maybe 10 yrs confused
The car has plexiglas windows that are faded and mess up, it has a set of early Centerlines with big and little tires, Ford 9 inch with ladder bars and coil overs, I'll try to post a picture of it on here tomorrow.


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if the complete unibody still exists it would only have the 2 partial VIN stamps on it - core support & trunk lip - I'll ask around - the pic would help

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Rad support # (it's a partial VIN) should be pretty obvious, unless there's a ton of paint or the upper yoke was replaced


From my research LA built ('69) B-bodies had the "A9XXXXXX" last characters of the VIN stamped ON TOP of the radiator support on the drivers side NOT on the backside of the support. My LA built '69 GTX has it on top and I didn't know it, I had asked my friend to check for it as the car was in Texas and I had told him where it should be on the backside he came back and said he couldn't find it frown. I got nervous and disappointed but when I got to the car I found it on the top of the radiator support driver's side. Then I started to notice why the engine coolant label was off to the center of the top of the radiator support on LA cars and always more to the far driver's side of the support on St. Louis, Hamtramck and Lynch Road B-bodies.........so the LA B-body had the VIN where the other plants put the engine coolant info label if your looking for it.

This is where the coolant info label is, more toward the center of the rad support, on LA built cars and the VIN is toward the top side of the driver's side, (where the other plants put the coolant info label).

Mike


LA plant would be E9XXXXXX

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Wes Eisenschenk has a registry of 1969 Road Runners. Maybe he has the info on file?

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