Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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All that and more....We trimmed the steering box mount, moved the master cylinder, and still had to use a plate to put the engine where it would fit with everything. 572 gonna need a big header....
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Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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Yes, but i'm hearing that some had moved their steering box or the pass inner fender skirt needs modifying . Did the 68ss cars have inner fender skirts? I have a ton of questions on fitment and block pros and cons. I talked to one of the SS/AH guys at Indy one year. He said they beat the shock towers back with a sledgehammer. He said some of the cars got body filler in the dents to smooth them out.
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Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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The Hurst cars had the pass. side sheet metal around the shock tower flattened, offset master cylinder plate added, steering box moved away from engine, spacers between the k frame and longitudinals.
I think the firewalll to floor weld flange was rolled back too.
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Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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One thing not mentioned yet is intake manifold availability for a low deck block. The choices might be limited. What you’re wanting to do has been done many many times.
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Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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Forget the low deck at any price. Any price. So the real question is do you want the Bill Mitchell? The bore is too large, so I guess you will have to replace the sleeves. I'm guessing new sleeves will be $1,000 plus whatever someone charges you to replace them. I've never replaced the sleeves in a Bill Mitchell, I assume you need an oven. All this sounds like a $2,000 total bill to me. I know you say this is a low buck deal but I wouldn't take the Bill Mitchell either. This may sound strange but the cheapest Hemi blocks today are the new blocks. They are expensive. But they are the cheapest because of all the work it takes to get a dog block fixed up. I would borrow the money from the bank and seek out the best deal I could get on a new block of known quality.
People have been putting Hemis in A bodys for over 50 years. You can do it. But it's tight. In the next few months we are going to put one in my buddys 68 Dart. After 35 years of him wanting one.
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Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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That is a good point and will have to look into that as well. I have been reading something about 10 bolt heads, aren't they all 10? I still have alot of notes to take before pulling the trigger. There's no such thing as 10 bolt heads.
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Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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Maybe it is a 4.490 bore. That way you can hone to 4.500. I do like the aluminum blocks. There are new iron Callies blocks on ebay now for $4,900.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gen-II-426-Hemi-Block-4-25-Inch-Unfinished-bore-at-4-245/333907434360?hash=item4dbe6f1b78:g:JDsAAOSwvtNgCIGZ
Hemi blocks are 17 head bolts. 13 regular bolts and 4 inner valley studs.
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Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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There are a couple of different intake configurations.....Standard is 16 bolt...Two little bitty 1/4 bolts per port. Then there are the SS/AH heads with only 1 bolt per port also 1/4 and the other is welded up and then they port right thru it....Then there are Indy intakes with only 6 bolts for even bigger ports....where the bolts are centered between each port. There is a reason a single carb intake can now out run the cross rams of old.
So you will have to make a choice with a 572, typically 4.5 bore x 4.5 crank, run big ports or be constrained by the smaller bolts right next to stock ports.....I would pick and engine builder, and get all my parts from one source. If you don't, mixing and matching parts can be a real headache.
Some heads have the valves rotated and require certain pistons, etc...For me, If I were to build another, I would do a Callies Iron block, and probably Eddy heads.
But choose a builder like Bob George Racing or Ray Barton or Tim Banning right by you, and source all your parts thru one of them. Tim has some really awesome stuff he does and he only uses Stage V heads and they are not cheap, but his require no gaskets for the intake.
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Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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Looking at two blocks, Bill Mitchell aluminum block 4.590x10.72 and the other the Indy Maxx aluminum block. What are you looking at? Bill Mitchell Products BMP 088515 – Aluminum Engine Block Hemi Block 10.720 Deck, 4.490 Bore, Billet Caps $5,895.75 BMP web link
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Re: Would like some advise on 2 different Hemi blocks
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I hate to ask, but what is the status on Keith Black blocks? When I go to the website all I see is t-shirts? Really?
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