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Re: Oil Change Question [Re: Jambbii] #2900349
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My 2011 with 6.4 SRT8 ram definitely saves fuel in 4 cyl mode, easily 1 MPG vs turning it off, it uses it a lot more than the 5.7 especially since I added the vararam intake. Now if I am driving 80+ MPH it barely uses it. Also I have dug into hundreds of these MDS engines dodge engines and NEVER seen wear that could be caused by the MDS, it is extremely reliable unlike chevys AFM system, that thing is pure garbage.

As far as different viscosities, some engines have engine oil coolers that keep the oil a more consistent temp, also the vehicle it's in might run higher oil temps because it's working harder, add that in with the previously mentioned clearances and it opens up a plethora of possibilities as to the best viscosity of oil.


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Mobil1 oil is not the required spec tsk

mopJ proclaimed on another topic that he had done LOTS of research on this ...,

MOPj ... wasssupy ?

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I changed the oil in my new Challenger T/A 392 @ the 1st 500 miles, AFTER I did a proper break in smile


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Originally Posted by csk
I changed the oil in my new Challenger T/A 392 @ the 1st 500 miles, AFTER I did a proper break in smile


...AND the filter ? Which oil did you use ?

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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Mobil1 oil is not the required spec tsk

mopJ proclaimed on another topic that he had done LOTS of research on this ...,

MOPj ... wasssupy ?


Thanks for your input!!!!!!!!! Going to go change it right now!


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Re: Oil Change Question [Re: dOrk !] #2900485
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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Originally Posted by csk
I changed the oil in my new Challenger T/A 392 @ the 1st 500 miles, AFTER I did a proper break in smile


...AND the filter ? Which oil did you use ?


Yes I used a mopar filter, the same part # that was on the car & yes on the oil Pennzoil SRT 0/40, I see mopar has a special SRT oil filter also, I need to research whats different on that


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Re: Oil Change Question [Re: CSK] #2900488
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This is the info I found on the SRT filter. next oil change I will go with this one

041AA Filter -
"For track-day use, SRT engineers suggest using the SRT oil filter (part number 05038041AA). Originally designed for Viper applications, it works great with all Chrysler V8 engines."

This information was sent out in a SRT news release and was publically verified by SRT engineers, and confirmed during a SRT Engineering chat session. The 041 is a factory and certified Mopar part.

"The SRT oil filter for all the past engines and the new 22mm inlet SRT filter for the Gen 4 and beyond engines share the same characteristics.
We worked with many of the filter suppliers to get the best features. Some fell out for various performance reasons but we ended up developing the current SRT filters with one of the mainstream manufacturers (it is different than their commercial offerings - or at least was when we developed it). The high flow oil pumps in our large engines (Viper is the biggest) can overpower the internal relief valve. When this valve opens it allows some of the high pressure dirty oil to bypass the filter element in order to keep the filter from being damaged. The SRT filters do indeed have a higher differential bypass valve to make sure all the oil delivered to your powerplant is clean. The housing is slightly thicker than many of the brands out there to handle the pressure but is not the thickest. The real thick ones failed our development testing (fractured at the crimped flange). The media used was one of the latest synthetics that allowed very fine filtration, more debris capacity, and much lower restriction than our standard Mopar filter (and just about every other filter out there). The final result was clean oil to your Snake, all the time, with more pressure to the internals where it is needed. I would fully recommend using this filter in your beast, I do in mine. Hope this info helps. KCC"


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Re: Oil Change Question [Re: CSK] #2900489
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Gents, if you want to get serious about an oil conversation, visit Bob is the oil guy .com. long reads, but informative.

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Originally Posted by csk
This is the info I found on the SRT filter. next oil change I will go with this one

041AA Filter -
"For track-day use, SRT engineers suggest using the SRT oil filter (part number 05038041AA). Originally designed for Viper applications, it works great with all Chrysler V8 engines."

This information was sent out in a SRT news release and was publically verified by SRT engineers, and confirmed during a SRT Engineering chat session. The 041 is a factory and certified Mopar part.

"The SRT oil filter for all the past engines and the new 22mm inlet SRT filter for the Gen 4 and beyond engines share the same characteristics.
We worked with many of the filter suppliers to get the best features. Some fell out for various performance reasons but we ended up developing the current SRT filters with one of the mainstream manufacturers (it is different than their commercial offerings - or at least was when we developed it). The high flow oil pumps in our large engines (Viper is the biggest) can overpower the internal relief valve. When this valve opens it allows some of the high pressure dirty oil to bypass the filter element in order to keep the filter from being damaged. The SRT filters do indeed have a higher differential bypass valve to make sure all the oil delivered to your powerplant is clean. The housing is slightly thicker than many of the brands out there to handle the pressure but is not the thickest. The real thick ones failed our development testing (fractured at the crimped flange). The media used was one of the latest synthetics that allowed very fine filtration, more debris capacity, and much lower restriction than our standard Mopar filter (and just about every other filter out there). The final result was clean oil to your Snake, all the time, with more pressure to the internals where it is needed. I would fully recommend using this filter in your beast, I do in mine. Hope this info helps. KCC"


Cool info! Thanks for posting! I'm going to grab one.

Re: Oil Change Question [Re: moparjim79] #2900534
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mopJ .... WHERES all that research data you did on the SRT specific oil ?

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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
mopJ .... WHERES all that research data you did on the SRT specific oil ?


My man, if your trolling, knock it off. If your talking about the post you made regarding srt specific oil, and the comment I made about the research I have PUT INTO HEMI LIFTER FAILURE, not oil research, im sorry if you misconstrued or got butt hurt. That was not my intention at the time. If you are asking me for a specific document or a research paper I released to the public, you got me. I dont have it or one. But what I did do is spend every night for weeks studying cause and effect scenarios and the fixes for them. The problems range from factory recommended products being used to high end after market, and also lower end readily availible consumer grade stuff, and the failures were still there. Can you explain a factory warranty replacement engine lasting 2 weeks? Neither could FCA. But its happened to more than one unfortunate owner. These are all engines with said magical srt oil installed. Lots of these machines are lovingly cared for, and they still suffer this fate. I cannot explain why.

If you still have an issue with me giving you an option for oil changes like you asked, I dont know what else to tell you guy. But what I can tell you is, all the work you put into finding a decent deal on an srt specific vehicle, you can't tell me you didn't realize with these cars if you want to play, you gotta pay. The cost of ownership is gonna be higher than what the cost of ownership is with a caravan.

To the O.P., sorry if that got a little off topic.

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Amsoil makes the srt spec oil also


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you are good with me Moparjim!!!!!

this is all great info, i am willing to Pay to Play!!!! its not a daily driver therefore if i could not pay the upkeep and afford the gas then i should never have bought it. lucky for me, i am blessed to be able to afford this luxury in my life


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Originally Posted by 392Hemi
you are good with me Moparjim!!!!!

this is all great info, i am willing to Pay to Play!!!! its not a daily driver therefore if i could not pay the upkeep and afford the gas then i should never have bought it. lucky for me, i am blessed to be able to afford this luxury in my life


The pay to play comment wasn't aimed towards you. And I'm always glad to see people able to afford toys like these!

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Originally Posted by moparjim79
Originally Posted by 392Hemi
you are good with me Moparjim!!!!!

this is all great info, i am willing to Pay to Play!!!! its not a daily driver therefore if i could not pay the upkeep and afford the gas then i should never have bought it. lucky for me, i am blessed to be able to afford this luxury in my life


The pay to play comment wasn't aimed towards you. And I'm always glad to see people able to afford toys like these!


Wasssupy mopJ. .. who wizzed in your corn flakes today ?

Not able to P2P ? .. moi ? ... the near 40k$ was paid off ... last year ?

Able to afford ? .. I’m just not stupid with my money. YOU handle YOURS as you see fit

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Originally Posted by csk
Amsoil makes the srt spec oil also


cSk ... what’s that specific oil number ?

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Originally Posted by moparjim79
Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
mopJ .... WHERES all that research data you did on the SRT specific oil ?


My man, if your trolling, knock it off. If your talking about the post you made regarding srt specific oil, and the comment I made about the research I have PUT INTO HEMI LIFTER FAILURE, not oil research, im sorry if you misconstrued or got butt hurt. That was not my intention at the time. If you are asking me for a specific document or a research paper I released to the public, you got me. I dont have it or one. But what I did do is spend every night for weeks studying cause and effect scenarios and the fixes for them. The problems range from factory recommended products being used to high end after market, and also lower end readily availible consumer grade stuff, and the failures were still there. Can you explain a factory warranty replacement engine lasting 2 weeks? Neither could FCA. But its happened to more than one unfortunate owner. These are all engines with said magical srt oil installed. Lots of these machines are lovingly cared for, and they still suffer this fate. I cannot explain why.

If you still have an issue with me giving you an option for oil changes like you asked, I dont know what else to tell you guy. But what I can tell you is, all the work you put into finding a decent deal on an srt specific vehicle, you can't tell me you didn't realize with these cars if you want to play, you gotta pay. The cost of ownership is gonna be higher than what the cost of ownership is with a caravan.

To the O.P., sorry if that got a little off topic.


TROLLING? ... is asking you to share info you said you had ?

And now you mention that the 6.4 shouldn’t have MDS ?

I’ve had very good results with mine ...

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LEAST I forget .....

I called Amalie tech and had a nice chat with someone in sales ....

He’s having an engineer call me that is familiar with the 12633 spec

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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
LEAST I forget .....

I called Amalie tech and had a nice chat with someone in sales ....

He’s having an engineer call me that is familiar with the 12633 spec


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OOPPPS not that picture LOL

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