Re: cam choice for 440 with 1960's long ram manifolds?
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03/05/21 11:17 AM
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Who spins it over 5000 rpm on the street??
So you never had a car in HS then?
Last edited by jcc; 03/05/21 11:18 AM.
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Re: cam choice for 440 with 1960's long ram manifolds?
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03/05/21 11:48 AM
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Who spins it over 5000 rpm on the street??
So you never had a car in HS then? Bought a 3" stroke car with 2x4's when I was 19 and out of HS. 8,000 RPM was the name of that tune. 4.56 gears helped too.
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Re: cam choice for 440 with 1960's long ram manifolds?
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03/05/21 04:04 PM
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Who spins it over 5000 rpm on the street??
So you never had a car in HS then? Yes, I did, but I didn't drive like an idiot. For that I had my motorcycle.
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Re: cam choice for 440 with 1960's long ram manifolds?
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03/05/21 04:12 PM
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Who spins it over 5000 rpm on the street??
So you never had a car in HS then? Yes, I did, but I didn't drive like an idiot. For that I had my motorcycle. Hey, 5,000 rpm with low enough gears, just gets one to the legal speed quicker, being an idiot is optional, besides, toying with idiocy is how society sorts out the youngsters, I only referred to HS, because those 16 in Jr high, already have their own issues. You did wear a helmet right?
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: cam choice for 440 with 1960's long ram manifolds?
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03/06/21 10:05 PM
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you need a cam in the 220ish@.050 & a wide LSA, 112 to 114 , the wide LSA keeps the exhaust pulse from affecting the ram pulse that the LONG runner creates , I would lean more to the 114 LSA, I would also cut a 30dg back cut on the intake valves ONLY, not the exhaust valves , I would also install the intake lobe @ 106 to 108 Good info. Thank you. I am using the 1960 long ram intakes, which have full length divided runners, which apparently were designed for 2800 rpm. Since this is a street only car, and where I live its a 60 mph speed limit and no freeways for 200 miles, it will be a daily driver in town, with occasional highway driving. I'm leaning towards 3.23 gears, with 28 inch tall tires. As mentioned, I am looking for max low end torque, and preferably high vacuum for good mileage too. 4 speed manual transmission for the fun factor
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Re: cam choice for 440 with 1960's long ram manifolds?
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03/12/21 05:12 PM
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Check out this thread on the Forwardlook forum: Dyno'd My 1960 413 Long Ram Engine This Week!He did something close to what you are looking to do. His combo was 413 bored to 426, "sort" rams, cleaned up stock heads, and a hydraulic roller. He ended up with 516TQ at 3,600rpm 405HP at 5,000rpm. I would think the long rams would bring the peaks down a little lower in the rev range, but stealth heads should be better flowing and bump the numbers back up.
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Re: cam choice for 440 with 1960's long ram manifolds?
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03/12/21 09:20 PM
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My take, stock 413 LR motor I believe was OEM at 475lb/ft? A .560 lift cam on nearly stock heads with those long rams, seems way overkill, I would have liked to see less but faster lift, with a hyd roller, that is rpm limited,.more duration, wider, and up the CR, especially with Alum heads, and with EFI/timing w/knock sensors. it would allow OP to get dialed in.
My expectations would be a bit north of 516 on 110 gas.
Last edited by jcc; 03/12/21 09:24 PM.
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