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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: krautrock] #2884345
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Originally Posted by krautrock
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Sounds fun. Why the short 6.7 rod length? Low deck? How would the motor respond to a 7.1 rod. I ask because the differences in rod length/rod ratio are not so clear in my mind. It would be nice to hear some info on the choices.


it's all he can fit in a low deck. the CH on the piston is already only 1.12"


That’s correct. The standard is a 6.535 rod. I chose a longer rod and shorter piston.
Dom, I know you would go dominator lol. I plan to do a lot of street driving and prefer a power valve.
This carb has worked well for me. I thought about trying one on the dyno but I don’t think I’ll end up doing so since I don’t plan to run one.

Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: viperblue72] #2884363
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The dyno shop might have a dyno mule 4500 and adapter on hand if you have time and feel like seeing “what if”?

It’s not always magic.


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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: viperblue72] #2884398
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Originally Posted by viperblue72
All of your responses make me more optimistic. I am just surprised these heads are that capable without going too crazy. I’m guessing it’s the excellent mid lift numbers that help this head to perform?!


I've run a half dozen or so 270 head combos on the dyno and they have all made more than 700 hp. Some of them with less compression and a smaller cam than what you are using. If everything else is equal in your build then I'd expect 720 hp from what you have but it always depends on the details. The carb has to be right on as does the timing and the plugs and lots of other little details.

Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: krautrock] #2884411
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Originally Posted by krautrock
Originally Posted by jbc426
Sounds fun. Why the short 6.7 rod length? Low deck? How would the motor respond to a 7.1 rod. I ask because the differences in rod length/rod ratio are not so clear in my mind. It would be nice to hear some info on the choices.


it's all he can fit in a low deck. the CH on the piston is already only 1.12"


G3 392 has 1.21", Just for the sake of comparison smile


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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: viperblue72] #2884424
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Who says a p/v isn't in Dommys silly......A friend goes 7.80 in the 1/4 w/a p/v in his carb......Unless the adapter and manifold are blended, I don't expect crazy gains but if you did, you'd be amazed but then I'd go straight to a Dommy manifold w/a spacer.....


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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: Thumperdart] #2884434
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Originally Posted by Thumperdart
Who says a p/v isn't in Dommys silly......A friend goes 7.80 in the 1/4 w/a p/v in his carb......Unless the adapter and manifold are blended, I don't expect crazy gains but if you did, you'd be amazed but then I'd go straight to a Dommy manifold w/a spacer.....


Dom, I did not know that. Maybe one of these days I’ll talk to an expert 😄.

Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: viperblue72] #2884465
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Ray Meyers on here one Drag Week with a 1050 Dommy carb I did and got up to 16 mpg's.......


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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: viperblue72] #2885806
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Good stuff...let us know how it does on the dyno. Personally, I'd tickle the runner dividers floor transition with a bigger radius...might help fuel distribution.

Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: JERICOGTX] #2886399
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Ok guys. First pull were at 723hp@6100 and 690tq. That’s at 34 timing and 1” spacer and a 950 carb.

Re: 511/TrickFlow combo/ UPDATE [Re: viperblue72] #2886408
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This is the 2nd pull. 36 timing 1” spacer. 950 carb.
729hp 680tq.

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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo/ UPDATE [Re: viperblue72] #2886409
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Try 32 degrees. Sometimes those TF heads like less timing.

Re: 511/TrickFlow combo going on the dyno [Re: viperblue72] #2886423
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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo/ UPDATE [Re: viperblue72] #2886428
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I’d like 1.4hp ci, but my dyno operator said he hasn’t seen it on a combo that wasn’t race gas and this simple.



I guess he has now!! smoke


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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo/ UPDATE [Re: fast68plymouth] #2886496
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Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
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I’d like 1.4hp ci, but my dyno operator said he hasn’t seen it on a combo that wasn’t race gas and this simple.



I guess he has now!! smoke


Stopped at 743hp@6100 and 699.9tq. I’ll give more details when I get home.
Didn’t try more than the 950 carb. It needed more carburetor badly.

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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo/ UPDATE [Re: viperblue72] #2886536
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Originally Posted by viperblue72
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I’d like 1.4hp ci, but my dyno operator said he hasn’t seen it on a combo that wasn’t race gas and this simple.



I guess he has now!! smoke


Stopped at 743hp@6100 and 699.9tq. I’ll give more details when I get home.
Didn’t try more than the 950 carb. It needed more carburetor badly.


740 is starting to get serious. A Dominator on a 400-3 intake would pick it up another 20 or so. We'll be running a very similar low deck 512 on the dyno soon with a 400-3 intake and a 4500 bolt pattern Holley Sniper. Expecting 750 hp from it.

Re: 511/TrickFlow combo/ UPDATE [Re: ZIPPY] #2886545
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Re: 511/TrickFlow combo/ UPDATE [Re: tboomer] #2886556
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AndyF, I have read your articles and others and didn’t want to get too optimistic. But these heads really do make serious power.
There was easily more In it. Vacuum through the carb was 1.9” and afr was 13.5. Through mufflers. I decided to stop there since I won’t be using that carb anyways. 2” spacer gained 5hp over the 1”. 38 timing over 36 only gained 1hp. BSFC was very impressive down into the 300s. Didn’t mess with valve lash or anything other than timing and spacers. Last run we cooled it down to 120 degrees.. Thats when
we made 743hp@6100 and 700tq@5000

Re: 511/TrickFlow combo/ UPDATE [Re: viperblue72] #2886569
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Nice numbers. What type of fuel did you run it on???

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Harley we ran it on 98 octane just for safe measure. Although dynamic compression is only 8.5 so it may run. Just fine on pump premium.

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