Re: 4 speed drag race ring and pinion
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What rear end are you running?
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Re: 4 speed drag race ring and pinion
[Re: joes68340s]
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01/25/21 11:00 AM
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I'm wondering where to look for a drag race ring and pinion for a 4 speed small block a body. Im looking for 4.86 gear this is in a 10 second 4 speed small block car. I see street gears but haven't found anything else. Will the typical street gear hold up. Maybe, but not likely. I don’t think you can even buy a pro gear for the 8.75 any more. Hard to find many ratios in the pro gear for the D60 either. If you have a good clutch you might get lucky and get 50-75 runs out of the street gears. Maybe. Bad clutch tune up...not many. May be time to look into the 9 inch. I suspect that in 10 years or less the only pro gears you can buy will be for the 9.
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Re: 4 speed drag race ring and pinion
[Re: joes68340s]
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01/25/21 07:00 PM
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Everybody is convinced that an 8-3/4 will self destruct behind anything hotter than stock. I’d admit that behind a clutch isn’t the ideal spot for one, but it’s an A-body, so we’re not throwing a lot of weight at it. You mentioned that it’s already narrowed, and if it’s backbraced then it’s not gonna flex much. I bet if you were to put your parts into a Yukon Nodular case, it would last quite a while even with standard gears. I throw 3880lbs at mine; 60’ in 1.54.... I just stripped my 742 case down, it has had the same 4.10 street gear set in it for a few years now. They looked just fine. Not saying a Dana wouldn’t be an upgrade, but if you haven’t broken it yet, what makes everyone think you suddenly will now? Your money.... Cass is the right guy to be dealing with, that’s for sure.
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Re: 4 speed drag race ring and pinion
[Re: joes68340s]
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01/25/21 11:53 PM
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Dana the best way to go however if you rem finish and cryogenic the gears they will last longer.
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Re: 4 speed drag race ring and pinion
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Drag racing is hard on driveline parts, especially with a 4 speed. Why waste time and money on anything less than the strongest parts for the application? I would switch to something where you can get pro gears like a 60 or a 9, and be done with it. It's more $ now, but cheaper in the long run.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum RS23J71 RS27J77 RP23J71 RO23J71 WM21J8A I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do. "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
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Re: 4 speed drag race ring and pinion
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Drag racing is hard on driveline parts, especially with a 4 speed. Why waste time and money on anything less than the strongest parts for the application? I would switch to something where you can get pro gears like a 60 or a 9, and be done with it. It's more $ now, but cheaper in the long run. I agree....... and will add...... they make pro gears for a reason. My friend runs a stick in a 3300-3400lb(depends on the class) Stocker. It has the fancy easy-on-parts clutch. Rear gears are still fairly frequently replaced........ pro gears, MW 12 bolt.
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Re: 4 speed drag race ring and pinion
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01/27/21 05:02 PM
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Geez I was just looking for 4.86 ring an pinion, now I need to replace my rearend. cheaper for me to go auto. have you thought of buying and running a shorter tire to steepen up the ratio in all gears instead of changing the rear gears? 4.89 divided into 4.56 equals .9325 or 6 3/4 % difference in the two ratios. 27 inch tall compared to 26 inch tall equals which is .9629 or 3 3/4 % difference in circumference. My point is you can achieve your goals more than one way. I use to help a guy who later become a good drag racing friend on a 1970 4 speed Duster with a stock 1970 T.A 340 motor in it minus the six pack, he raced it a lot on the street and later at the track, he broke a bunch of 8 3/4 rear end parts including the last time it exploded the clutch type posi unit blowing pieces out of the back of the rear end housing into the gas tank It had a set of 5.38 or 5.13 gears in it when that happened, he switch to a Dana 60 with 5.57 and 35 spline axles with a clutch type Dana 60 posi and never had to work on the rear again Good hooking SB A motor 4 speed cars are hard on drive train parts, 727 and 904 are not You can learn from others or the hard way, it is your choice
Last edited by Cab_Burge; 01/27/21 05:04 PM.
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