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Re: High compression in a big inch street motor [Re: Dragula] #2871587
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I like Mopars and I like Hemis, but I cannot see how the Hemi can "get away"
with more compression than a wedge for the same octane.
I have always read that the Hemi combustion chamber is more detonation prone
and needs more octane. Or, more cam duration to bleed off pressure under 3000 RPM.
Unless you guys are comparing aluminum Hemi heads to iron wedge.

Re: High compression in a big inch street motor [Re: hemienvy] #2871593
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Originally Posted by hemienvy

I have always read that the Hemi combustion chamber is more detonation prone
and needs more octane.


It's the exact opposite of what you have read. The Hemi has the most efficient combustion chamber shape of the era, and a centrally located spark plug. The flame front has an equal distance to travel in all directions from the spark plug.That reduces its octane requirement.


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Re: High compression in a big inch street motor [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2871599
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I can see the centrally-located plug being a good thing. But there is no quench area.
Is that the reason this supposed lack of detonation resistance is based on ?

Re: High compression in a big inch street motor [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2871637
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Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
Originally Posted by hemienvy

I have always read that the Hemi combustion chamber is more detonation prone
and needs more octane.


It's the exact opposite of what you have read. The Hemi has the most efficient combustion chamber shape of the era, and a centrally located spark plug. The flame front has an equal distance to travel in all directions from the spark plug. That reduces its octane requirement.
iagree up
Aluminum heads help a lot also on any motor to reduce detonation on pump gas thumbs
There is quench in all Hemi combustion chambers as long as the piston has a dome that is above the block but not like wedge motors have with one side having it and the other side under the combustion chamber not having it work
I use thin narrow strips of clay on the hemi motor pistons to check piston to head clearances on my high compression builds, check that out to see about quench clearances also up

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Re: High compression in a big inch street motor [Re: hemienvy] #2871730
01/09/21 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hemienvy
I like Mopars and I like Hemis, but I cannot see how the Hemi can "get away"
with more compression than a wedge for the same octane.
I have always read that the Hemi combustion chamber is more detonation prone
and needs more octane. Or, more cam duration to bleed off pressure under 3000 RPM.
Unless you guys are comparing aluminum Hemi heads to iron wedge.
most wedge engines came with open chamber heads ... terrible when compared to a closed chamber like the 915 ... or the hemi.

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