Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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http://508charger.yolasite.com/440 - 508 cuin MP/Eddy aluminum heads CNC ported std port window 10.8:1 CR <250° @ 0.050” w/ 0.600” ish lift – solid roller 200#/500# ish Isky springs Pro Magnum rockers (1.5) 440-2D intake Small venture (1.375”) “950” hp style carb Factory exhaust manifolds. Window opened. 2 ½” exhaust system with tailpipes Ultra Flow mufflers 4150# race weight P255 MT ET street radial 3.23 727 w/ TG2 auto shift Stock converter – 1900 stall Race it in “D” 1.90 ish 60 ft times Good Air – DA 2000 ish - 11.70 @ 119 ish Best – 11.68 @ 120.2 Corrected std. 11.45 @ 122.8
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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01/04/21 03:43 PM
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I'm really glad I made the effort to fire it up back in April just to hear it run, because now I'm working on some long overdue changes to the rest of the car (metal work),and it will be awhile before I can get the 572 (aka Project Big Dumb Hemi) between the rails and make everything fit/work. The car no longer looks like this. Been at it for awhile, have lots of pictures and stuff Anyway judging from idle quality and throttle response, it seems it should be a fairly tame street engine. Cam and compression are both less than the existing 451 low deck, because I am getting old, same as everyone here, and I was never a super serious racer anyway. I am also in the planning stages of an equally, if not more stupid large cubic inch wedge, and some other stuff.
Rich H.
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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I'm really glad I made the effort to fire it up back in April just to hear it run, because now I'm working on some long overdue changes to the rest of the car (metal work),and it will be awhile before I can get the 572 (aka Project Big Dumb Hemi) between the rails and make everything fit/work. The car no longer looks like this. Been at it for awhile, have lots of pictures and stuff Anyway judging from idle quality and throttle response, it seems it should be a fairly tame street engine. Cam and compression are both less than the existing 451 low deck, because I am getting old, same as everyone here, and I was never a super serious racer anyway. I am also in the planning stages of an equally, if not more stupid large cubic inch wedge, and some other stuff. Boy does that look sweet !! Ron
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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And Feets, my cam's 0.050" durations numbers are very close to yours, when you look at it at the valve (i.e. adjusting for lash).
If you're comitted to the hydraulic roller, and what you are looking for in that car, I think your plan is pretty solid. You can split hairs with a few degrees duration, and the LSA, but until you try a couple of different cams, you'll never know for sure, IMO.
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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01/07/21 06:32 PM
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http://508charger.yolasite.com/440 - 508 cuin MP/Eddy aluminum heads CNC ported std port window 10.8:1 CR <250° @ 0.050” w/ 0.600” ish lift – solid roller 200#/500# ish Isky springs Pro Magnum rockers (1.5) 440-2D intake Small venture (1.375”) “950” hp style carb Factory exhaust manifolds. Window opened. 2 ½” exhaust system with tailpipes Ultra Flow mufflers 4150# race weight P255 MT ET street radial 3.23 727 w/ TG2 auto shift Stock converter – 1900 stall Race it in “D” 1.90 ish 60 ft times Good Air – DA 2000 ish - 11.70 @ 119 ish Best – 11.68 @ 120.2 Corrected std. 11.45 @ 122.8 Man I love that Charger. Sweet!
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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01/08/21 02:43 PM
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You guys running the big Wedges (not the Hemis), are you using OE blocks? Are you using Chevy rods?
68 Valiant 408 69 Charger 318 69 Cougar 351W 70 Torino GT 351C 71 Country Squire 351W 71 Road Runner 440+6 71 Satellite sedan 318 73 Duster 318 73 Challenger 383 77 Grand Prix 455 83 Malibu 9C1 383 84 Delta 88 403 87 Grand National 96 Ram 360 09 Crown Vic 10 Challenger R/T M6 15 Challenger Hellcat M6
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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01/08/21 03:22 PM
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You guys running the big Wedges (not the Hemis), are you using OE blocks? Are you using Chevy rods? Yes, 7.1" long with the 2.20 rod journal.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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Thank you sir, trying to step up my game a little.
Rich H.
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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I'm going to take a guess: More than likely the upshift governor is set up exactly where he wants it, and no manual shifting is required(?) (Could be wrong...that's based on how beautiful and dialed in the whole rest of the rig is).
Rich H.
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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I'm going to take a guess: More than likely the upshift governor is set up exactly where he wants it, and no manual shifting is required(?) (Could be wrong...that's based on how beautiful and dialed in the whole rest of the rig is). Thanks. And yes. And I think it shifts better than manually shifting a full auto valvebody. Although it seems like the shift rpm creeps up a little when the fluid gets hotter.
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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This has over 7,000 miles on it and hundreds of dragstrip passes following the formula Andy listed above.
I'd say it has been trouble free but it has managed to break every driveline component in it! It is basically the driveline out of a 1 ton Dodge now save for the full floating rear axles. People often build big strokers and neglect the rest of the driveline. The stock stuff will not survive!
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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Stroked 440 in an A12 Passon 5 speed 650+ hp on dyno Trik flow 240 , will run on 87 10:1 but i use 90 non eth with a touch of race fuel , just because I can . And it smells right . Drove about 800 miles this year , Would have been more if I didnt trade my rarely driven hemi for a Hellcat .
And ol lady getting older cant deal with the occasional stink from the 50 yo car, lol.
Bee kills vettes and sometimes Hellcats depends who can hook , lol . No traction control on Bee ..
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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This has over 7,000 miles on it and hundreds of dragstrip passes following the formula Andy listed above.
I'd say it has been trouble free but it has managed to break every driveline component in it! It is basically the driveline out of a 1 ton Dodge now save for the full floating rear axles. People often build big strokers and neglect the rest of the driveline. The stock stuff will not survive!
GY3 that car is impressive. I read most of your posts. I have a 511 sb built going into an A body basically the same build as you. 10.3/1, Indy EZ heads. 3 choices of intakes. 8 in ATI convertor. 3.91 in an 8-3/4 which have to replaced. You and Andy F may have sold me on a hydraulic roller.
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Re: How many of you run 500" or bigger street engines?
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This has over 7,000 miles on it and hundreds of dragstrip passes following the formula Andy listed above.
I'd say it has been trouble free but it has managed to break every driveline component in it! It is basically the driveline out of a 1 ton Dodge now save for the full floating rear axles. People often build big strokers and neglect the rest of the driveline. The stock stuff will not survive!
GY3 that car is impressive. I read most of your posts. I have a 511 sb built going into an A body basically the same build as you. 10.3/1, Indy EZ heads. 3 choices of intakes. 8 in ATI convertor. 3.91 in an 8-3/4 which have to replaced. You and Andy F may have sold me on a hydraulic roller. Thanks! Gonna try and squeeze it into the 9's this Spring.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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