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Re: tony stewart ? [Re: StealthWedge67] #2870213 01/07/21 12:17 AM 01/07/21 12:17 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,035 NY B B1duster master
B1duster master B Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,035 NY	Originally Posted by StealthWedge67 Tragedy for sure. But at the moment you get out of a car on a race track with cars active on the track and run towards moving cars...... YOU and YOU alone are responsible for whatever ensues. I understand the the parents are heartbroken, but to blame anyone in that situation other than the guy that got out of his car and rushed into traffic is just plain ridiculous. Really ? Even when the other drivers had no problem getting past him, then tony intentionally aimed the car at him and sped up. He went after him to hurt or at least scare him, I’m sure not to kill him, but he did, it’s called vehicular manslaughter. Just like if slam your brakes on to scare the guy tailgating you, and he crashes and dies, maybe never touching your car, you get caught and you go to jail. Unless your a celebrity maybe Last edited by B1duster; 01/07/21 12:20 AM.

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: B1duster] #2870262 01/07/21 08:15 AM 01/07/21 08:15 AM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	So what do you call getting out of your race car and moving towards other still moving race cars ? It was a tragedy , and it was avoidable. But the victim is responsible here. You seem to want it to be someone else's fault , and I am sure you have reasons that make sense to you. But from my chair , the kid screwed up big time and paid a horrible price for his actions.

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: tubtar] #2870295 01/07/21 09:13 AM 01/07/21 09:13 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,704 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,704 W. Kentucky	IMHO there were several mistakes made that night. The kid shouldn't have got out of his car, period, he could've taken it up with Stewart in the pits. I don't think Tony intentionally ran over him. I do think he was trying to be a dick and pitch the car and throw dirt on him. Tony is a talented driver and has done well in anything he's driven, but I don't like him.

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: justinp61] #2870318 01/07/21 09:37 AM 01/07/21 09:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,774 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,774 A collage of whims	I'd guess that few if any commenting on that incident have run a dirt sprint car. When the cars are live, you are not to exit a car unless it's an emergency. You damn sure don't exit the car and walk/trot down anywhere near or into passing cars. They're set up to turn left, strongly, to a varying extent (track-dependant); often very hard to swerve right. I've been in them where it's hard to go straight. Most of the time it's not all that well-lit, either. And since the racing line changes constantly, you're looking at the surface development, not for someone walking or trotting towards the side of your car.

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: B1duster] #2870340 01/07/21 10:08 AM 01/07/21 10:08 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY	Originally Posted by B1duster He intentionally swerved at and killed 20yr old Kevin Ward Jr. He should have went to jail. He was let off the hook because the kid had smoked a joint that day I can’t change the channel fast enough The kid and the family are well known around here and not well liked. He was doped up and in a race car. He exited a car on a race track with live cars running, He then moved towards a moving race car. That enough warrants trouble. Its dark, your moving towards a race car, and he is at a speed where you just cant " turn" a sprint car. Did Stewart want to throw some dirt? I dont know. Did he just try and power around him? I dont know. Only he knows. Bottom line, the kid would be alive if he wasnt doped up and acting like a jackass. He wanted to be all tough guy with a famous sprint car driver, and it cost him his life. It was stupidity, end of story. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #2870432 01/07/21 12:16 PM 01/07/21 12:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,598 Fulton County, PA C CMcAllister Mr. Helpful
CMcAllister Mr. Helpful C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,598 Fulton County, PA	I have to think Stewart didn't see the kid, or maybe saw him from a distance then lost track of him as he got closer. Guys need to look at the right side of a sprint car, They are built to protect the driver, not see out of. Kid was an idiot. Even a drag car, full cage, restricted movement, helmet, scoop - you really have to pay attention and be careful just moving around in a crowded pit. If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: CMcAllister] #2870443 01/07/21 12:40 PM 01/07/21 12:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,035 NY B B1duster master
B1duster master B Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,035 NY	Sorry I brought it up but .... He had traces of marijuana in his system - If you take a couple of tokes it stays in your system for 2 months Tony wrecked him the lap before and the other drivers stayed low on the track to avoid it Tony went high on the track knowing he just wrecked him up there. ..........So I have this boss at work and he is the nastiest most miserable person I’ve ever had to deal with in my life and tomorrow I’m gonna ask if he wants to come racing with me

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: B1duster] #2870529 01/07/21 03:23 PM 01/07/21 03:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,763 Walton's Mountain, Pa Steve1118 master
Steve1118 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,763 Walton's Mountain, Pa	Of course, the fact the kid stepped out of the race car on a dusty track, and, on top of that was found to be doped up, had nothing to do with it, did it? "Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #2870535 01/07/21 03:37 PM 01/07/21 03:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 764 NW Pa. KD800X super stock
KD800X super stock Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 764 NW Pa.	Originally Posted by CompWedgeEngines Originally Posted by B1duster He intentionally swerved at and killed 20yr old Kevin Ward Jr. He should have went to jail. He was let off the hook because the kid had smoked a joint that day I can’t change the channel fast enough The kid and the family are well known around here and not well liked. He was doped up and in a race car. He exited a car on a race track with live cars running, He then moved towards a moving race car. That enough warrants trouble. Its dark, your moving towards a race car, and he is at a speed where you just cant " turn" a sprint car. Did Stewart want to throw some dirt? I dont know. Did he just try and power around him? I dont know. Only he knows. Bottom line, the kid would be alive if he wasnt doped up and acting like a jackass. He wanted to be all tough guy with a famous sprint car driver, and it cost him his life. It was stupidity, end of story. WELL SAID I know people up in the Oneida area, who know the Canandaigua track owners and the Ward's ...and they said pretty much the same thing.

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: KD800X] #2870547 01/07/21 04:01 PM 01/07/21 04:01 PM
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pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA.	Sounds to me like the kid was a hothead and that my friend cost him his life. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2870645 01/07/21 07:08 PM 01/07/21 07:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Sobieski Wi B bee1971 master
bee1971 master B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Sobieski Wi	And Tony Stewart Is A Princess 1971 Dodge Charger Superbee 2011 Ram Sport 1500 Quad Cab Deep Water Blue Loaded Siberian Huskies

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: bee1971] #2870683 01/07/21 08:03 PM 01/07/21 08:03 PM
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70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	The Lawsuit was settled out of court......... Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: 70AARcuda] #2870728 01/07/21 08:48 PM 01/07/21 08:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,261 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,261 Oregon	Originally Posted by 70AARcuda The Lawsuit was settled out of court......... The reports are that the family had to settle since the lawyers came to the conclusion that they would lose at trial. The lawyers told the family to take the settlement offer or else they would walk. The incident was reviewed by a ton of experts and the conclusion was that they couldn't prove it to be anything other than an accident. The local DA declined to press charges since he didn't have any proof of anything other than an accident. The kid didn't do himself any favors by having weed in his system and getting out of his car on the track. If I was on the jury I would've said that the kid was responsible for his own death. He was supposed to stay in his car and wait for the tow truck.

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: AndyF] #2870736 01/07/21 08:56 PM 01/07/21 08:56 PM
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cudatom super stock C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,127 Massillon, Ohio	Originally Posted by AndyF Originally Posted by 70AARcuda The Lawsuit was settled out of court......... The reports are that the family had to settle since the lawyers came to the conclusion that they would lose at trial. The lawyers told the family to take the settlement offer or else they would walk. The incident was reviewed by a ton of experts and the conclusion was that they couldn't prove it to be anything other than an accident. The local DA declined to press charges since he didn't have any proof of anything other than an accident. The kid didn't do himself any favors by having weed in his system and getting out of his car on the track. If I was on the jury I would've said that the kid was responsible for his own death. He was supposed to stay in his car and wait for the tow truck. Perfectly explained. When your attorneys are going to walk the case is a dog and has no merits. Delt with attorneys involving accident claims for 28 yrs. Never once had one tell his client they were walking. And we defended against some real frivolous cases. This one had to be a sinking ship. Ok

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: AndyF] #2870741 01/07/21 09:04 PM 01/07/21 09:04 PM
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bee1971 master B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,822 Sobieski Wi	How many NASCAR drivers have gotten out of there cars and walked or ran on the racetrack - Seriously Sure , those NASCAR cars look really slow at 55mph during pace laps on TV Tony Stewart knew exactly what the hell he was doing and wanted It was a sad situation no matter who you liked or didn’t like Let these damn drivers settle it out , man to man like mentioned instead of having there body guards protect them once outside the car Last edited by bee1971; 01/07/21 09:07 PM. 1971 Dodge Charger Superbee 2011 Ram Sport 1500 Quad Cab Deep Water Blue Loaded Siberian Huskies

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: cudatom] #2870827 01/08/21 01:35 AM 01/08/21 01:35 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,913 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,913 Bend,OR USA	Me thinks the kid may have been spoiled, a local hero and thought he was special, he thought wrong didn't he. I use to help some roundy round racers at a local 1/4 mile paved oval in San Bernardino, CA . They, roundy round drivers and crew, are a completely different breed of racers than power boat racers, airplane racers, motorcycle track racers and other car racers I've ran into and help. Some of them are complete idiots Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2871133 01/08/21 01:21 PM 01/08/21 01:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 371 Bowler Wisconsin Smoparmike enthusiast
Smoparmike enthusiast Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 371 Bowler Wisconsin	Pot in his system, should have never been in a race car!

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: Smoparmike] #2873455 01/12/21 09:38 PM 01/12/21 09:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,035 NY B B1duster master
B1duster master B Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,035 NY	Originally Posted by Smoparmike Pot in his system, should have never been in a race car! But Bill Clinton said it’s ok if you dont Inhale

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: B1duster] #2874599 01/15/21 04:40 AM 01/15/21 04:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 371 Bowler Wisconsin Smoparmike enthusiast
Smoparmike enthusiast Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 371 Bowler Wisconsin	Then shouldn't be in his system?

Re: tony stewart ? [Re: B1duster] #2874620 01/15/21 07:59 AM 01/15/21 07:59 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn. tubtar master
tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Originally Posted by B1duster Originally Posted by Smoparmike Pot in his system, should have never been in a race car! But Bill Clinton said it’s ok if you dont Inhale He meant to say " swallow ".

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