Re: Fuel Additive to Combat Ethanol?
[Re: Sniper]
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CKessel
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Amsoil makes products for that. They have Quick Shot for small engines, P.I. [performance improver] for short term autos and Gasoline Stabilizer for up to 12 month storage for all gas powered engines.
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Re: Fuel Additive to Combat Ethanol?
[Re: CKessel]
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I use Ethanol Defense from Bell Products. Not normally available in Parts Stores. Some Marine Stores do carry this. Look them up on line, you will not be sorry.....Jim
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Re: Fuel Additive to Combat Ethanol?
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Star Tron has worked well for me. Are we stuck with Ethanol blended into gasoline forever? https://www.realclearscience.com/bl...ure_but_were_probably_stuck_with_it.htmlSample quote “The ethanol program functions as a hidden food tax—the most regressive of all taxes," Mario Loyola, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, wrote for The Atlantic last year. "And the effects on poor Americans are magnified for poor countries that depend on imports of food." Ethanol's government-mandated grasp on agriculture is best exemplified with a startling statistic: "In the United States, the cultivation of corn for ethanol now requires a staggering 38 million acres of land—an area larger than the state of Illinois. By comparison, the total area of cropland used to produce grains and vegetables that humans eat is only about twice that acreage," Loyola wrote. End quote
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Re: Fuel Additive to Combat Ethanol?
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DaveRS23
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Star Tron has worked well for me. Are we stuck with Ethanol blended into gasoline forever? https://www.realclearscience.com/bl...ure_but_were_probably_stuck_with_it.htmlSample quote “The ethanol program functions as a hidden food tax—the most regressive of all taxes," Mario Loyola, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, wrote for The Atlantic last year. "And the effects on poor Americans are magnified for poor countries that depend on imports of food." Ethanol's government-mandated grasp on agriculture is best exemplified with a startling statistic: "In the United States, the cultivation of corn for ethanol now requires a staggering 38 million acres of land—an area larger than the state of Illinois. By comparison, the total area of cropland used to produce grains and vegetables that humans eat is only about twice that acreage," Loyola wrote. End quote And as a side note, there is another subject that isn't heard of much. Our use of ethanol is a major propaganda tool for our enemies. People in third world countries often don't have enough to eat, despite the millions and millions of dollars in food aid that the Unites States donates to them. Our enemies proclaim that us fat, lazy Americans burn food (corn) in our Cadillacs so that we can get to the mall to buy their sweat shop produced shirts and pants. I know it sounds crazy to us knowing there is a major difference between types of corn. But to the hungry, uneducated masses in some countries, it rings true and gives them just one more reason to hate us. Our government insists on oxygenators in our fuels. MTBE was the go-to oxygenator for years. Then they discovered that it did not dissipate in water and hung on for a very long time. And it was a carcinogen. So, the next best thing was ethanol. There was good reason why it was not the government's first choice for an oxygenator, but the environment and politics come first, so here we are. Just another sad saga of the 'tail wagging the dog'. The United States no longer picks the best and the brightest. And more and more we do the wrong thing for all the right reasons.
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Re: Fuel Additive to Combat Ethanol?
[Re: DaveRS23]
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11/25/20 08:56 AM
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Star Tron has worked well for me. Are we stuck with Ethanol blended into gasoline forever? https://www.realclearscience.com/bl...ure_but_were_probably_stuck_with_it.htmlSample quote “The ethanol program functions as a hidden food tax—the most regressive of all taxes," Mario Loyola, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, wrote for The Atlantic last year. "And the effects on poor Americans are magnified for poor countries that depend on imports of food." Ethanol's government-mandated grasp on agriculture is best exemplified with a startling statistic: "In the United States, the cultivation of corn for ethanol now requires a staggering 38 million acres of land—an area larger than the state of Illinois. By comparison, the total area of cropland used to produce grains and vegetables that humans eat is only about twice that acreage," Loyola wrote. End quote And as a side note, there is another subject that isn't heard of much. Our use of ethanol is a major propaganda tool for our enemies. People in third world countries often don't have enough to eat, despite the millions and millions of dollars in food aid that the Unites States donates to them. Our enemies proclaim that us fat, lazy Americans burn food (corn) in our Cadillacs so that we can get to the mall to buy their sweat shop produced shirts and pants. I know it sounds crazy to us knowing there is a major difference between types of corn. But to the hungry, uneducated masses in some countries, it rings true and gives them just one more reason to hate us. Our government insists on oxygenators in our fuels. MTBE was the go-to oxygenator for years. Then they discovered that it did not dissipate in water and hung on for a very long time. And it was a carcinogen. So, the next best thing was ethanol. There was good reason why it was not the government's first choice for an oxygenator, but the environment and politics come first, so here we are. Just another sad saga of the 'tail wagging the dog'. The United States no longer picks the best and the brightest. And more and more we do the wrong thing for all the right reasons. Add to the above that ethanol was added to gas because the US was importing $100 per barrel Middle East oil. The idea was to reduce the price of gas. Today the US produces more oil than we use so in fact we have a surplus. So, why are we still adding ethanol to gasoline? Because Washington DC moves at a snails pace and they frequently have no clue what's going on in the real world. I suspect the list of senators and congressmen who pumped their own gas in the last twenty years is short. Write your congressman and senators.
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Re: Fuel Additive to Combat Ethanol?
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their octane booster is junk
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Re: Fuel Additive to Combat Ethanol?
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Wash the gas with water, the alcohol will attach to the water and you just drain off the mix, it has been done successfully in the aviation world for years to get rid of the alcohol. If you dont believe me, google it. Simple chemistry.
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Re: Fuel Additive to Combat Ethanol?
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11/30/20 03:56 PM
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It seems like every small engine shop around here has a display of "ethanol failures" right next to the fuel additives. But I have yet to see it cause any problems that weren't greatly enhanced by lack of use or total lack of care.
I've found a lot of small engine carbs are caked full of this chalky white ethanol residue inside. I guess that's what's left behind when the fuel evaporates. It seems to slowly eat aluminum as well because I've pulled apart some that were in pretty poor shape internally after. Wash the gas with water, the alcohol will attach to the water and you just drain off the mix, it has been done successfully in the aviation world for years to get rid of the alcohol. If you dont believe me, google it. Simple chemistry. I've seen this done on youtube but have never had a need to try it. Water added to the fuel and mixed up. Left to sit in a clear container, ethanol/water separates to the bottom and is drained out with a spigot.
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Re: Fuel Additive to Combat Ethanol?
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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11/30/20 04:04 PM
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It seems like every small engine shop around here has a display of "ethanol failures" right next to the fuel additives. But I have yet to see it cause any problems that weren't greatly enhanced by lack of use or total lack of care.
I've found a lot of small engine carbs are caked full of this chalky white ethanol residue inside. I guess that's what's left behind when the fuel evaporates. It seems to slowly eat aluminum as well because I've pulled apart some that were in pretty poor shape internally after. Wash the gas with water, the alcohol will attach to the water and you just drain off the mix, it has been done successfully in the aviation world for years to get rid of the alcohol. If you dont believe me, google it. Simple chemistry. I've seen this done on youtube but have never had a need to try it. Water added to the fuel and mixed up. Left to sit in a clear container, ethanol/water separates to the bottom and is drained out with a spigot. Ethanol is corrosive, that is probably that white chalky stuff
1941 Taylorcraft 1968 Charger 1994 Wrangler 1998 Wrangler 2008 Kia Rio 2017 Jetta
I didn't do 4 years and 9 months of Graduate School to be called Mister!
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