Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
[Re: Grizzly]
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How did they get there from having such a sharp truck just a generation or two ago(2016)? Oh yeah, they really hit it out of the Ugly Park with that one ............and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that. They haven't had anything decent to look at since 1986. I loved the look of my 95 Chevy, truck was just a piece of junk tho
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
[Re: Kern Dog]
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10/13/20 01:33 PM
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The '94 to '02 Dodge was the best balance of aero and curves with the appearance of a serious truck. The fourth Gen 1500's (not the 2500's ) are next up for best-looking trucks. The 2500's of everything available today is just a truly sad event of having no pride in what you drive. We had all 3 of them ugly things at work last winter and my 2 Gen attracted the most attention.
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
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10/13/20 03:08 PM
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Is the hood air inlet in any manner functional?
The radiator grille area is so large I wonder if there are hidden block offs behind the plastic outer? On the GMC, the hood scoop is functional on the diesels. Probably the same with the Chevy. I've noticed these scoops as well in the past few years - only on diesels from what I've seen too.
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
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10/13/20 03:25 PM
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
[Re: Grizzly]
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10/13/20 03:35 PM
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In Bob Lutz’s book, he discussed the revolutionary styling of the ‘94 Ram. Whereas the general rule for evaluating new designs was to show them to focus groups and go with what was liked by the largest % of the people in the groups, when they did the new Ram they went a different route by looking for a design that got the biggest reaction and for one that people actually either loved or hated, not just liked. The thought was that a design that a certain number of people loved would strongly motivate them to buy, and with Dodge then being a distant 3rd in the pickup truck market, that was what was needed to get their brand out of the cellar by gaining increased sales. It was a bold and ingenious concept as it put Dodge in the spotlight and resulted in their truck sales getting up there with GM and Ford, which continues to this day over 25 years later. Who knows if Dodge/Ram trucks would even still be on the market today if they’d gone with more conventional styling instead back in ‘94? I loved the design myself and decided I would buy one, a ‘95 1500 I bought used in ‘97. I’m in the market now and can live with the new styling, but much prefer the previous look. I’d rather buy a used 2018 if the used market wasn’t so inflated currently. An engineer colleague of mine said that although not publicized, GM’s final design for the new truck was chosen by a special needs kid as a Make a Wish event. If true, that’s nice and charitable of them but no way to sell trucks!
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
[Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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10/13/20 05:32 PM
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I can't keep from staring at those mirrors, they're terrible as well. I saw that too. Guys in La, Miss, and Bama call them things bad names. Mostly N-word knockers there are some crude rednecks there. Like you could hit someone with them walking. Looks like they would fold in. The rednecks and coonass' do get drunk and do hit crap with the bolt-on ones and cave the door skins in $0.02
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
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10/13/20 05:38 PM
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Standard operating procedure for Blunder Motors to blame someone else, let alone a special needs Child on their ridiculous design. Wonder who they blamed the aztek on?
Mo' Farts
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
[Re: Grizzly]
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10/14/20 08:33 AM
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Standard operating procedure for Blunder Motors to blame someone else, let alone a special needs Child on their ridiculous design. Wonder who they blamed the aztek on? In our MBA program, that was a topic of discussion. According to GM, the Aztek program was perfect. They had a cross functional team that was motivated by the rah-rah, and anyone who had criticism was off the team. The project met all the targets that were set. So in one way it was perfect. But the vehicle was a failure because it didn't have the criticism that was needed to steer it to what the market wanted. T.J.
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
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10/14/20 09:33 AM
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Standard operating procedure for Blunder Motors to blame someone else, let alone a special needs Child on their ridiculous design. Wonder who they blamed the aztek on? In our MBA program, that was a topic of discussion. According to GM, the Aztek program was perfect. They had a cross functional team that was motivated by the rah-rah, and anyone who had criticism was off the team. The project met all the targets that were set. So in one way it was perfect. But the vehicle was a failure because it didn't have the criticism that was needed to steer it to what the market wanted. T.J. The Aztec was a Picasso painting that was morphed into a vehicle.... What a piece of carp styling wise.
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
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10/14/20 11:16 AM
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I prefer the metal sidestep on the original prototype to the plastic sidestep of the model pictured. I like the (probably unintended) nod to Vic Hickey with those "pocket" bed steps. Just wish they hadn't gone and blown it by turning them into oversized, plastic gee-gaws. Completely ruined them and made the truck look even worse.
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
[Re: Grizzly]
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10/14/20 12:11 PM
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I didn't mind the last style of GM nose but the currrent one is down at the bottom of the pile with the Aztek. How did they get there from having such a sharp truck just a generation or two ago(2016)? Oh yeah, they really hit it out of the Ugly Park with that one ............and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that. They haven't had anything decent to look at since 1986. And that was the ugly style of box front. The 90s ones looked better but only after they got rid of the chrome and started with the body colored trim.
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
[Re: 5thAve]
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10/14/20 12:31 PM
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Yes, I will give them that, if it's the 350ss/454ss trucks you are talking about.
Mo' Farts
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Re: A pickup face only a mother could love
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10/14/20 04:21 PM
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They are very large trucks. Going to need a big barn to get that critter inside. I have an 84 Chevy as my work truck. I was going to move up to a newer model but all the truck beds are narrower now. Taller but narrower. I can put an B/E body front sub frame in the bed of mine and it will sit on the floor of the bed. Anything newer than my body style and it will have to sit on the bed rails, all of the companies went narrow. Is this one any wider or just tall and ugly.
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