Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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One other thing that I have seen is on two piece driveshafts the slip yoke at the center bearing can hang up on the splines. Coming to a stop and depending on rate of decel the yoke can hang up on the splines then snap free/forward giving you what feels like a shift. There was a TSB on that many years ago. It also affected the single piece rear shafts. The slip spline at the rear shaft on the transfer case could bind and release. My experience the shorter the wheel base the worse the condition. It never hurt anything but was a common concern by many customers.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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10/01/20 02:12 PM
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Thank you, sir.
I tried turning off the O/D switch and it didn't influence it at all. I believe that it is the driveshaft, or at least some component outside of the transmission, because a loud clang accompanies the lurch sometimes.
Another oddity, it was chilly here today, and O/D would not engage, even on the highway. It engaged perfectly yesterday. Do I have a faulty Solenoid, sir?
I checked the fluid this morning and it was still bright and clear. I think OD is defeated by the PCM until engine temperature gets up to a certain threshold. Additionally in certain applications there is an external temp sensor for the trans and in others it’s internal - part of the OD/LU solenoid assembly which has a thermistor built in. If it sees a low temp you won’t get OD, too hot and OD is defeated as well.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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On the RH trans the trans temp sensors are often on the output/front line on the trans. Close to where it screws into the case. 2 wire connector I believe diesel gets this external sensor. I believe gas uses the internal sensor - part of the OD/LU solenoid assembly.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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I've got a weird issue, now. So, when I was coming to a light earlier today my transmission felt like it didn't downshift all the way, and went I went to roll forward the engine just revved, without catching.
I pulled off onto the shoulder, and the transmission downshifted, and then I was able to jump back out into traffic normally. About ten minutes later I was pulling out of a neighborhood, and the same issue happened. I let back on the throttle, and eased forward and first gear engaged normally.
I tested it going to school, and when I started forward with light throttle pressure the transmission would engage normally.
There have been no hard shifts, the fluid is bright and does not smell burned in any way. What am I facing here?
I do not rev the motor hard, so my throttle input for all of this was light to medium, no more than 1500 rpms.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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10/07/20 03:43 PM
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Update.
Truck started lurching when I pulled into my neighborhood coming home from school today.
Manged to limp rest of way home with truck jumping between what felt like 1st and 2nd gear.
Truck now dies after engine revs up and down 1000 rpms when shifting into Drive, 1, or Reverse.
Please help.
Fluid is still bright and clean. No burned smell.
Is this a bad torque converter? Could I have a band issue?
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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Thank you, Nitrous. Unfortunately I didn't have the time or the ability to pull a fuel sample. This makes perfect sense that it would be electrical, and is only coincidental that it is happening around the time of my trans rebuild. The truck is a 1994 1500 with the 5.9 and is OBD 1. I do not have a code reader, so was unable to check codes. I did check the connection to the ECM, and checked my fuses. I even swapped my fuel pump relay with a known good relay.
This morning it cranked normally, gave me no issues on the way to school, and drove really well. When passing by an overpass I thought I heard a loud whining, but figured this could just be the gearsets that I changed in the OD unit. Transman warned me there could be more noise. To be fair I was in OD pushing 2000 rpms, so my rate of speed was up.
When trying to leave the school this afternoon the truck was doing the exact same thing as yesterday. Lurching, not wanting to go over 5mph, running really rough, sounding like it almost wanted to backfire. I limped to a parking lot, and had the truck towed to the mechanic who did the trans swap. I suspect a fuel pump going bad, and only acting up in the heat, now. It was pretty hot yesterday afternoon and today. This morning was nice and cool so may have been able to operate normally.
I did put the truck in park and revved the engine. It revved up to 2500 rpms normally, with no stuttering. I don't know if this is a sign of anything, or the truck simply being able to make rpms because in a zero load situation.
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