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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: BDW] #2823601
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Originally Posted by BDW
The Boucillon kit works well, exact copy of factory system, but expensive.

https://www.bouchillonperformance.com/meta-product-kickdown-cable-kit


Worth every penny !! twocents

Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparjack44] #2823633
09/22/20 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by moparjack44
Originally Posted by moparx
do you have a link or picture for the offenhauser linkage ?
beer


No, sorry. I found it on the Hemi Hot Heads site.


I believe that linkage merely hooks dual carbs together, doesn't connect to the trans.


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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: John_Kunkel] #2823948
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by moparjack44
Originally Posted by moparx
do you have a link or picture for the offenhauser linkage ?
beer


No, sorry. I found it on the Hemi Hot Heads site.


I believe that linkage merely hooks dual carbs together, doesn't connect to the trans.


Yes, I think you are right. I have ordered the kickdown kit from Bouchillion. Be glad when it gets here. Will let ya know how it works.

Thanks Everyone, you always come thru,
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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparjack44] #2824124
09/23/20 02:21 PM
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thanks for the linkage replies fellows.
is the linkage one to one [both carbs opening the same at once] or progressive ?
if progressive, will that affect the bouchillion hookup from how they have it designed for a single carb ?
in other words, will any brackets or hardware in the kit need to be modified ?
beer

Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparx] #2824175
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Offenhauser offers both direct and progressive kits. I'm sure some fabrication will be required to make them work with the Bouchillon cable setup.


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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: John_Kunkel] #2828844
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by moparjack44
Originally Posted by moparx
do you have a link or picture for the offenhauser linkage ?
beer


No, sorry. I found it on the Hemi Hot Heads site.


I believe that linkage merely hooks dual carbs together, doesn't connect to the trans.


Got my kit from Bochillon. Looks great, but have nothing positive to say about the instructions. Shows each step for the Holley, then the OEM, then aftermarket Edelbrock (thats me) then the Demon, then goes to step 2 for all 4 carbs, each then step 3, 4, , etc, etc, etc,. Can someone put together for me each simple step for my set up? The Holley, OEM, Demon, not applicable for me, and confuses me.

Jack


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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: John_Kunkel] #2828859
10/05/20 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by moparjack44
Anyone else with "simple" solutions (I ain't no mechanic), will be greatly appreciated.


You have all the info you need, the problem is the Lokar..........it's poorly designed AKA junk.


I second that opinion. Lost a very important race due to poor quality of my Lokar. Will never use it again,

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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparjack44] #2829699
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Originally Posted by moparjack44
Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Originally Posted by moparjack44
Originally Posted by moparx
do you have a link or picture for the offenhauser linkage ?
beer


No, sorry. I found it on the Hemi Hot Heads site.


I believe that linkage merely hooks dual carbs together, doesn't connect to the trans.


Got my kit from Bochillon. Looks great, but have nothing positive to say about the instructions. Shows each step for the Holley, then the OEM, then aftermarket Edelbrock (thats me) then the Demon, then goes to step 2 for all 4 carbs, each then step 3, 4, , etc, etc, etc,. Can someone put together for me each simple step for my set up? The Holley, OEM, Demon, not applicable for me, and confuses me.

Jack


OK. I'm diving in the deep end on my own, beginning Monday morning (car show this week-end). Mean while If you think of short cuts or what to be aware of, please let me know, any help greately appreciated.
Jack


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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: BDW] #2829741
10/07/20 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BDW
The Boucillon kit works well, exact copy of factory system, but expensive.

https://www.bouchillonperformance.com/meta-product-kickdown-cable-kit

I am a little confused. How can a kickdown cable kit be an exact copy of the factory system which does not use a cable?


In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: GomangoCuda] #2829801
10/07/20 01:08 PM
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It is a copy of the 90' Dodge Ram/Dakota Magnum engine kickdown setup. Go to the junkyard and get this setup for practically nothing and make a carb mount for it.


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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #2829805
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i was going to say the same, but you beat me to it.
beer

Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparx] #2830113
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The aluminum throttle bracket everyone sells works good for this setup.

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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: A727Tflite] #2830247
10/08/20 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Transman
You had the talent to mate an old engine to a newer trans, just do what somewhat mentioned - calculate total travel at the carb then modify the throttle pressure lever to get you what you need at the trans.



No, you give me way too much credit. Hot Heads has adapter to hook small block 727TF to early Hemi's. It was pretty straight forward and I had help from a "real" mechanic.


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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #2830250
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Originally Posted by Azzkikrcuda
The aluminum throttle bracket everyone sells works good for this setup.


Very neat, my application is Edelbrock, 2-4s?
You say everyone, you mean Summitt, Jegs, etc. or specialty vendors?

Jack


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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparjack44] #2830256
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Another kink in the "hose". With car on lift, wife in the car, I had her floor it (not running), the kickdown lever on the trans came forward a little, not backward at all? Would it have anything to do with fact car was cold and tranny in Park? After thinking about it, I think that could have been the problem..

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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparjack44] #2830380
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if the linkage was installed correctly, it should have moved the throttle lever backward, cold or not.
something is still messed up. [i think]
beer

Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparx] #2830406
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Even with tranny in Park?


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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparjack44] #2830432
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Trans gear position makes no difference. Throttle pressure lever must move to the rear.

Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: moparjack44] #2830434
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The gear it's has no bearing on the TP linkage operation. If flooring the throttle moves the trans lever forward, the linkage is hooked up to the wrong side of the throttle lever. Time for some pics.


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Re: A727TF kickdown adjustment [Re: John_Kunkel] #2830586
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Cable needs to come in from the rear of transmission to pull lever back when carb linkage moves.

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