Ran out of motor before stripe - new info
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04/09/09 11:39 AM
04/09/09 11:39 AM
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I have only been running 1/8th mile events since putting in 4.88 gears (with 31x10.5 slick) but tried to get my '75 Colt down the 1/4 last night during T&T. I made 2 runs before putting it on the trailer. 1st run was a 12.68 (1.8 60ft) shifting by ear and watching tach. All shifts were around 5500-5800. Valves started floating around 6200 in 3rd so I backed it down just a bit in order to make it to the stripe.
2nd run I tried to get more from each gear by shifting by tach. Had to shift by 6000 on 1st shift (valvetrain instability) and made it to 6200 on 2nd shift where I got some more vibration/instability. Barely made it thru the traps by the time I was pushing 6200 in 3rd. Ran a 12.8 on that run (same 60ft, 1000ft, lost .2 in 1/8th).
Had to trailer it due to oil seeping past front & rear intake seal (RTV only - gasket on the way) on high-rev pass. Motor has 509 cam w/bowl-ported 2.02 J heads, roller rockers, double springs on a stock 360 short block. MSD-6A, aftermarket dist, Demon 750, custom bigtube headers, 2800lbs w/driver, 4000 stall converter (727 footbraking).
I know the shortblock needs to be decked and/or aftermarket pistons to up compression to match the rest but I expect more out of the combo as is.
Any comments and/or suggestions would be appreciated.
Last edited by mopowered; 04/13/09 12:27 PM.
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Re: Ran out of motor before stripe - how best to help
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#282386
04/09/09 11:50 AM
04/09/09 11:50 AM
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Several things to check, the Tach, the valve spring pressures as well as the lifter preload It sounds like the lifters are pumping up or the tach is off, which I have seen more than once. Try setting the lifters with 1/8 to 1/4 turn of preload after backing the adjusters off enough to get some clearances on the pushrod and then tighten to zero preload and add 1/8 to 1/4 turn hot Makes some runs at 1/8 and then try 1/4 and keep experimenting until you find what your motor likes
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Re: Ran out of motor before stripe - how best to help
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04/09/09 02:58 PM
04/09/09 02:58 PM
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Wow I didn't realize how expensive the good valvespring testing tools were. Is there a common place to go borrow one? There aren't many professional engine building shops around here.
I plan on checking/setting my lifter preload this weekend as that only requires a clear head and some elbow grease.
I did notice that the MP 292/509 cam is listed as having a 2800-6200 RPM range. I'm guessing that is part of my problem.
Last edited by mopowered; 04/09/09 03:03 PM.
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Re: Ran out of motor before stripe - how best to help
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04/13/09 10:05 PM
04/13/09 10:05 PM
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They are aftermarket adjustable (5/8 + hex) roller (shaft & tip) rockers. I was thinking that while on the base circle snug is when I can't roll the tip w/my finger or spin the pushrod anymore. I'll probably start with 1/8 of a turn from snug to start with.
Last edited by mopowered; 04/13/09 10:07 PM.
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