California is on fire again.
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Worst air on the Earth and becoming toxic. I wish I they would stop polluting our Earth.
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Re: California is on fire again.
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Oops, their solar powered fire trucks don't work in the smoke. Ohhh man I didn’t even think about that. I hope the solar panels aren’t blocked from the sun.
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Re: California is on fire again.
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Reliably, nearly every year I can recall, Aug & Sep are full of bad fires there. Bad deal all around, and I have a friend north of Santa Clarita who's had to sweat that out every year he's been there. He actually has a water truck he keeps ready. That would absolutely be me. Preparation is the key. I'd have sprinklers, water tanks, oxygen to breath, fire barriers/breaks established, etc.. I do that on my property now, and the fire risk is almost zero.
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Re: California is on fire again.
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Reliably, nearly every year I can recall, Aug & Sep are full of bad fires there. Bad deal all around, and I have a friend north of Santa Clarita who's had to sweat that out every year he's been there. He actually has a water truck he keeps ready. I once noted that ants are industrious, but stupid. I would wreck their home every week with the lawn mower but they would rebuild it right back up. If my abode was being destroyed on a regular basis I would move. I did however live in Florida for over four decades though, so there is that... I feel bad for those people and hope no one is hurt but damn, just move. There are other great places to live in this wonderful country, just don't come here.
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Re: California is on fire again.
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Reliably, nearly every year I can recall, Aug & Sep are full of bad fires there. Bad deal all around, and I have a friend north of Santa Clarita who's had to sweat that out every year he's been there. He actually has a water truck he keeps ready. That would absolutely be me. Preparation is the key. I'd have sprinklers, water tanks, oxygen to breath, fire barriers/breaks established, etc.. I do that on my property now, and the fire risk is almost zero. Agreed, but it seems with the tree huggin Kali people they just don't seem interested in deforesting their living areas to prevent these massive fire storms, obviously they like setting up shop in a tinder box...
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Re: California is on fire again.
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Yep, pick your battles. I don't think any place on Earth is immune to Mother Nature's wrath. Well sure. But you can choose to live somewhere that floods constantly, lik NOLA, you can choose to live somewhere that gets hammered by hurricanes, FLA, you can choose to live somewhere that suffers tornadoes KANSAS, you can choose to live somewhere that is susceptible to earthquakes and fires CALIFORNIA (dumbasses) I chose northeast Ohio. We don't have any of the above problems, it's been 40 plus years since our last crippling blizzard. I like my odds.
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Re: California is on fire again.
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Yep, pick your battles. I don't think any place on Earth is immune to Mother Nature's wrath. Well sure. But you can choose to live somewhere that floods constantly, like NOLA, you can choose to live somewhere that gets hammered by hurricanes, FLA, you can choose to live somewhere that suffers tornadoes KANSAS, you can choose to live somewhere that is susceptible to earthquakes and fires CALIFORNIA (dumbasses) I chose northeast Ohio. We don't have any of the above problems, it's been 40 plus years since our last crippling blizzard. I like my odds. My flood was man-made. We have the best flood protection system. But the Parish President turned the pumps off. I moved my house anyway {UP!} I will take no snow and a T-Shirt in December thanks
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Re: California is on fire again.
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California and a lot of the people that live there are kinda messed up. It’s a shame because it’s a beautiful State.
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Re: California is on fire again.
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Id be asking who is getting rich from all these fires and walk back from there and follow the trail.
Cali has had more then enough time, YEARS, to deal with this issue... as with the power grid and water, ect.... for being so "progressive" they sure seem to have there heads in the clouds.
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Re: California is on fire again.
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So why do the people in cali put up with it year after year? What keeps people there when there are far less costly place in the country to live and work?
FIres in the great plains would burn for months until the rains came.
Where and when is this? Within a mile of my house/farm we have had three dry grass fires from lightening, one with 40 mph winds.
Two small vol. fire departments and a few guys with big tractors and discs had all three out in short order, 2 hours.
But yet Cali runs currently a 54 billion deficit.
The feds should fine them daily for there poor air quality. The greenies are setting a poor example. Ya know its bad when immigrants from China are going back home due to air quality.
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Re: California is on fire again.
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08/24/20 02:14 AM
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The Sierra Club and other tree hugger groups have pretty much put a stop to clearing the underbrush and doing the other things necessary to keep fires from becoming huge. More people also live in fire prone areas.
As to why people still live here. Aside from the fires (and this is the worst I've seen them in my 60 years as far as so many at the same time) there is no place on earth that has our natural amenities with our great weather. I can drive north and be in Yosemite in an hour, 2-1/2 hours west and be at the ocean. Our San Joaquin Valley feeds the world in spite of our California politicians playing with water allotments. There are days that I would rather be somewhere else, but most days I love where I live. Mr Potato head, the fires of the great plains were an integral part of the vast grasslands, as it is for the coniferous and oak woodlands. Some trees and shrubs cannot replicate without fire. Between environmental regs, warm dry weather patterns and change of firefighting strategy (liability and environment improvement fires are becoming larger and more devastating because people live at the interface and no maintenance buffer exists. The problem is manual clearing of undergrowth is not the answer. The only way to get the environment to grow back into the mixed cover types (grass, shrubs, hardwood and coniferous) is to let nature do her thing. There is simply too much biomass generated every year to be manually removed. A lot of the areas burning in California have recently previously burned, the grass and shrubs that first reappear burn regularly. A huge issue is the conversion of cover types and woodlands are being replaced by grass and brush. and inadequate winter rains and loss of top soil will not support tree growth for many years. I can't agree with Jim more of life quality. In the sparsely populated north california provides access to some of the globes most pristine scenic lands, air and water. Cost of living is not bad in rural areas and taxes are protected by prop 13. Now, if we were not a donor state and could retain our wealth we would be excelled in infrastructure and maintenance of our public places. But, apparently other states need Californias money more.
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Re: California is on fire again.
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https://www.greentechmedia.com/arti...r-is-playing-a-role-in-rolling-blackoutsSample quote California has also lost a good deal of the generation capacity that it had in years past, Berberich noted. “In 2006, we had a lot more capacity on the system,” including the now-closed San Onofre nuclear power plant and thousands of megawatts of natural-gas plants that have since closed. California is set to close even more gas-fired power plants in the coming years, including several coastal plants targeted for retirement to reduce their harmful effects on marine ecosystems. End quote For those that do not know, San Onofre got a complete rebuild, then when it tried to run again it was found that the new steam pipes were defective. CA still has huge reserves of oil, natural gas, even coal. There are even hot volcanic rocks near the surface providing the heat to run a electric power plant. There are many spots where “pumped water storage” could be built.
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