Curious what everyone's thoughts are?

Is it a G3 stroker or blown stroker? Is it the old standby BB wedge stroker? Is it one of those Nascar engines? is it a W9 Ritter stroker?

I look at what the Chebby guys have, and they have a good bit of choices over us in the Mopar crowd...Seems ever year that goes by there are less and less options for us.

Is an $8000 block the only way to make good Hp these days?

There would be no problem with any of the available mopar engines running reliably in the 9 second range with efi, dis& turbo.
I personally would like to get my hands into a gen3 with a centrifugal blower. Putting together something else right now though. Someday...

Mostly i think it comes down to how quick you want to go . And how motor fits your car .
Big block stock stroke with reasonable rpm will last well in stock block . Aluminium is $ and iron are thin on the ground . Is Bulldog still releasing blocks ? What happened to Callies ?
Small block seems even harder to deal with than big block .
Gen3 seems ok , but you see guys moaning about lack of good blocks even now . Plus decision of efi or carb .
I have 2 rb motors now , one a factory 440 and 1 a World 505 . The 440 short has been together since 2007/8 with a couple different cams and heads . It has gone 10.70@3690 , World is below . Stock block stroker lasted about 18 months before splitting block .
Is that quick enough ?

Tex

IMO anything you can replace the bottom end from a junkyard easily. No machine work, just something you can beat on over the weekend and then drive to work but not worry about. Less exotic the better, and plenty of stock LS or G3s making great power out there.

I messaged callies this past week and new blocks are right around the corner from what I was told. Their sister company has pics posted on Facebook of new hemi blocks being machined.

For me it would be a screw blown/supercharged Gen III Hemi.

Retain all streetability, valve train stability, on pump gas.

Change pulleys, load EFI tune and add race gas ...go 8s in an A body.

The LS clowns have been doing this for ages. Ill take an OEM Gen III block over any OEM SBM or BBM block any day of the week for power handling ability.

Not cheap, but then again, what is?

Plus more aftermarket goodies are coming by the day.

For sure a Gen III hemi. I like to use Ray Meyer's Barracuda as an example. 426CID pump gas 9.7s Naturally aspirated on Drag Week in 2016. Just the ET alone is impressive to me but he DIDN'T TOUCH IT ALL WEEK, he unloaded his trunk everyday and got in the lanes.

I constantly struggle with the idea of selling this R1 W2 engine and going Gen III.

But…...isn't working on these dinosaurs the fun part of it?...…….Lol .

Gen III 6.4 BGE with a big turbo!

A local guy has a Dart with that combo. He's been an easy 5.16 in the 1/8th and drives it to work all the time...

...that's a great point!

All around me the go-fast guys are running turbos or super-charged motors, none of them are Mopar. Heck, my daily driver is a turbo and I can't lie to you, it's a boat-load of fun.

BUT

Part of the reason for me to be engaged in the hobby was (and still is) the ability to affect the outcome with my know-how and by being very hands-on. Not to say going non-NA isn't that, but somehow it feels like that route would take away some of that.

For that reason, a go-fast approach for me would be to build a blown motor. Heck, that's the plan for my '81 coupe...

Gen III Hemi all the way. Talking to companies at the PRI show last year, they feel it’s the next LS. Holley is already talking about “going all in” over the Hemi. Buying a complete Hellcat setup is really easy today too. A lot of companies will sell you a complete pallet with everything you need to drop it in. Imagine having a 700 hp Hellcat motor in an a-body and hitting the remote starter on the red key in the staging lanes for giggles.

10 Reasons You’re Better Off With a Big-Block Ford
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/cheap-ford-big-block-460-10-reasons-jon-kaase/

Leave that crap at YellowBullet.

WHY!!
Are you afraid to talk engines?

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I messaged callies this past week and new blocks are right around the corner from what I was told. Their sister company has pics posted on Facebook of new hemi blocks being machined. [/quote]

Well i hope that comes to fruition . There is so many guys who seem to be looking to obtain a stronger base and retain their current program/structures

Tex

Well that sounds promising....I like their parts.

Holley Moparty (mopar version of LS fest)

https://www.moparty.com/

The Hellcrate is still a little more expensive than a 700 hp big block but it isn't a lot more. A 700 hp big block using a factory block and all new parts is usually in the $15,000 range. A Hellcrate is probably close to $20K by the time you buy the front end kit and the install kit plus the various swap parts. A Hellcrate should be more streetable than the average 700 hp big block. Typically a big block will need a roller cam to get into the 700 hp range so then you have some wear issues and a bronze gear and stuff like that. You can build a fairly streetable 700 hp big block with EFI and the correct cam choice but the cost goes up. If you are going to drive the car a lot then the Hellcrate is probably the best choice, especially if you go with the matching transmission.

If I was starting from scratch I would be going with the Gen III Hemi stuff. I don't think we are far off on seeing the aftermarket really get behind it.

I have my money tied up in Dodge R5P7 stuff, which I liquidated my W8 stuff to go over to. I won't be changing any time soon.