Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Grizzly]
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08/06/20 03:47 PM
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Guitar Jones
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Owned two First Gens and three Second Gens.......best one of the lot did 16mpg with 3.54's and a 60hp Edge chip. Additionally, I deal with a ton of people that run these trucks and they all get the same mileage as I did. The odd person who needs to justify the 50 grand they just blew on a Cummins and 45 cent a gallon more for diesel will claim 20 to 35 mpg like a few on here, but all of us true Diesel Guys know they are full of it. There is also that other faction that after getting 9mpg out of a 454 or 460, and now getting 15mpg out of a Cummins feels like winning the lottery. Yes, a 50% improvement over a big block gas is huge, but it sure as hell isn't 32mpg like some of you have claimed on here in the past. Guitar, you might as well add the house you were pulling behind you at 80mph and got 22mpg and ruin your credibility with me too. Real World Cummins Fuel Mileage I'll tell you what dude. I will bet you any amount of money you want to, you can come here and we will drive it and do the math. My truck gets 22 MPG just like I said. That isn't towing, that is empty. My 89 did exactly what I said it does all highway figures mind you. I've owned an 07 GMC Duramax crew dually 4WD that got 15 at best when it wasn't cleaning the DPF (down to 9 then) and an 06 Ram 2500 short bed quad 4WD that got pretty much 14 around town and if you were nice to it you could squeak out 20 on the highway. None of these figures are towing mind you. I checked the fuel mileage loaded on the first trip here towing my 2700 pound open car trailer loaded with all my tools and shop equipment and it was getting right at 14. The second trip loaded with more stuff and my crew cab on the trailer it got less but I didn't bother to check the mileage. It was heavy though. Pulling the 7 mile 5% grade when I first hit Virginia, the EGTs were over 1200, the temp gauge was past the normal range and I had to take it out of O/D and lockup. I was doing about 45 MPH by the time I got to the top of the mountain and it was struggling. 3900' elevation though. I don't know what those guys are doing with their trucks to get that crappy of fuel mileage but it isn't just driving them. Maybe they tow mobile homes with them but you would have to really try to get that bad of fuel mileage.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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08/06/20 11:55 PM
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Grizzly
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You're on, I'll take your bet.
How about we do a once up and once back, unloaded both trucks, I'll lead there you lead back, 150 miles minimum. My '01 360 Magnum I'll put it at 16 mpg at 60 mph, 14 mpg at 70 mph, or 12 mpg at 80 mph. You come to my area, I have real mountains out West, not those Gopher hills you call mountains out East.
Have you at 22mpg at 80 mph..........closest to their stated numbers wins. You wanna put your money where your mouth is?
Since you said any amount, lets go $2000.00
Mo' Farts
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Grizzly]
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08/07/20 06:25 AM
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Guitar Jones
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lol, I know my truck gets 22 here on the east coast, out there I don't know. Going back to FL from here there is only about 200 miles of mountains. I don't know where you live but I'm not driving across the country to prove my point. Like I said, I don't know what those guys are doing with their trucks to get such crappy numbers, and it doesn't have any explanation as to what they do with them either, only that it is an average of many fill ups. I know there are guys that tow very heavy with them and that will certainly reduce the mileage and over many fill ups will bring the numbers down. But hey if you want to come here I'll take your $2000 bet. We will fill up my truck, hit the highway for a tankful (about 400 miles, and still have some left) and then we can refill it and crunch the numbers.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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08/07/20 12:09 PM
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lol, I know my truck gets 22 here on the east coast, out there I don't know. Here we go, here come the excuses. Should we all move out there for the +10 mpg better air? I'm in. We will fill up my truck, hit the highway for a tankful (about 400 miles, and still have some left) and then we can refill it and crunch the numbers. Gotcha. How about I crunch the numbers? You have a 30 gallon tank, same as the First Gen I had, ("some left", so, 26 gallons), 400 miles divided by 26 gallons is 15.4 mpg. 15.4 mpg is a long way from the "25 to 26" you claim above, but a lot closer to the Fuelly site I quoted above. I'll save you the trip here: you can just send me the $2000.00
Mo' Farts
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Grizzly]
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08/07/20 07:17 PM
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Guitar Jones
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lol, I know my truck gets 22 here on the east coast, out there I don't know. Here we go, here come the excuses. Should we all move out there for the +10 mpg better air? I'm in. We will fill up my truck, hit the highway for a tankful (about 400 miles, and still have some left) and then we can refill it and crunch the numbers. Gotcha. How about I crunch the numbers? You have a 30 gallon tank, same as the First Gen I had, ("some left", so, 26 gallons), 400 miles divided by 26 gallons is 15.4 mpg. 15.4 mpg is a long way from the "25 to 26" you claim above, but a lot closer to the Fuelly site I quoted above. I'll save you the trip here: you can just send me the $2000.00 You are one miserable old SOB. I said my truck can get 22 MPG, you basically called me a liar. Well I offered to prove it by betting anything you wanted to bet, to come here and I'll prove it to you. You are the one with the excuses, who cares what you Magnum truck gets, you opened your mouth, called a bunch of people liars and now you want me to come there to prove it to you? You know what you can do to yourself. Put up or shutup or just send me the money now to avoid embarrassing yourself further. BTW what does 400 miles and 18 gallons of fuel (still a 1/4 tank left) equal genious?
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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08/07/20 07:30 PM
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Guitar Jones
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He isn't going to believe you anymore than he believes me. I can prove it though. I really don't care if he believes me or not but if he really wants to know, the offer is open. But trust me, he doesn't.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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08/07/20 09:25 PM
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I have had many of the Cummins diesel 4x4 trucks I will post the years and mileage it would get if driven on the highway. 1989 W-250 Auto 3.07 gear. 22mpg 1990 W-250 Auto 20 plus mpg 1991 W-250 Auto 20 plus mpg 1992 W-250 Auto 20 plus mpg 2002 2500 4x4 Auto 24mpg 50 mph. dropped about 2mpg for every 5 mph. One at 75 mph it pretty much leveled out at 17mpg drove it 150K. 1995 3500 Dually with a dump 5 speed 17 mpg at speeds about 60 mph. I still have this truck.
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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08/07/20 09:42 PM
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You are one miserable old SOB. I said my truck can get 22 MPG, you basically called me a liar.
I could squeak out 25-26 MPG with my old 89 D350 5 speed. Calling you a Liar? I guess, since twice in one thread you've LIED. I guess now I can call you a Welcher while I'm at it. I'm not miserable, I just don't BS fuel mileage numbers. I have nothing to gain by doing it and neither does anyone else. The OP is going to first need a Chiropractor appointment after the 7 hour trip, secondly, be awful disappointed when that ugly tractor gets 12 mpg, and thirdly, invest in a quality pair of hearing protection. Carry on, I've had enough of the Fairy Tales for one day. Things are improving around here, 10 years ago Members used to claim 32 mpg, I guess now we are at 22 mpg; 10 years from now it might get to 15mpg.
Mo' Farts
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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08/07/20 09:45 PM
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Don't bother, I've owned a few of them, I know what they get.
Mo' Farts
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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08/07/20 10:19 PM
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How about this........
Since my post somehow sparked a rivalry among other members......
This is my proposal;
I will top up the tank in the truck when I pick it up.
I will record the mileage.
I will drive the truck until the gauge shows a low reading, then fill the tank again and record the mileage.
Then I will post the details.
Can everyone agree to be copacetic with that? Do it.
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Grizzly]
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08/08/20 06:25 AM
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Guitar Jones
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Don't bother, I've owned a few of them, I know what they get. See Barry he won't believe you either. He just can't fathom that anyone else knows something or can do something he can't. If he would have read a little further down he would see my truck is not stock. I worked to get those numbers out of my trucks and make them run very well at the same time. My truck is no slouch. Is it noisy inside, yes. Does it ride rough, yes. But it does what I said if does whether he believes it or not. I don't have any reason to lie about it, I'm the one paying the fuel bill not him. And Grizzly, Plankton is a very fitting avatar for you, everything you do is a failure no matter how hard you try. You never win. I offered to bet you any amount of money you wanted, and this must be the part you missed, you come here, we fill my truck, drive it down the highway, fill it back up and we crunch the numbers but no, you want to include your truck (why I don't know as your trucks mileage was never a topic of discussion) and have me drive out west to you. That was not the original offer so I am done with you.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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08/08/20 09:26 AM
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but no, you want to include your truck (why I don't know as your trucks mileage was never a topic of discussion) and have me drive out west to you. That was not the original offer so I am done with you. I included my truck because I will hit my stated mileage number, and my stated Cummins numbers will be within 5% on YOUR truck. It's more about who is telling truth around here about what a Cummins gets for fuel mileage, like 6pakBee and Rhino. Really sad that you are resorting to reducing my character, but only proves you've lost out to someone who tells the truth. Everytime this comes up I get PM's from other Cummins Owners saying "thank-you for telling it like it it". They know better than to argue with you Delusional, wanna-be truck drivers. It's all here for the WWW to see and judge for themselves, Guitar, too bad it was you this time: I had a lot of respect for you. Now, where do I get a windshield wiper motor restored? Who makes the best hot air kit for my ________? I found a crack in one of my tires, should I replace all 4?
Mo' Farts
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Grizzly]
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08/08/20 01:12 PM
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Guitar Jones
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Why would I want to waste $2000 if my truck won't do what I said it would? Think about it. The answer is simple, I know my truck will. Easy pickin's for me from someone that can't believe that others may actually know how to tune a diesel. Done, believe whatever you want.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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08/08/20 07:13 PM
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Everything went well today! The truck drives awesome. I topped up the tank on the way home and reset the trip meter, then took a photo. That station is 20.5 miles from the house. I let the truck sit for 7 hours then checked the tire pressures, all were low, one by 11 pounds, the rest were less than that, one only 3 pounds low. I topped up the PSI to equal them out. I'll report back on the mileage after the next fill up. My current commute ranges between posted speed limits from 25 to 65 MPH and it is about 45 minutes each way depending on any traffic concerns. That said, here it is at home. :-)
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: NITROUSN]
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08/08/20 09:51 PM
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So, you drove it 7 hours to get it home, is this correct?
Mo' Farts
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Grizzly]
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08/08/20 10:02 PM
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So, you drove it 7 hours to get it home, is this correct? Facts can be important, what I actually said was; I let the truck sit for 7 hours then checked the tire pressures, all were low, one by 11 pounds, the rest were less than that, one only 3 pounds low. Sitting to cool off to check tire pressures does not equal 'drove' time in this case. ;-) I also know that tire pressures can affect mileage, so worth the effort to remain factual.
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Re: Used Dodge 2500 with Cummins / 5-speed best years?
[Re: Alaskan_TA]
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08/08/20 10:40 PM
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I spent over 7 hours on the road today, went to look at a truck and got the deal done.
I have a ride arranged for next weekend to go get it and bring it home.
Well unlike others, I do actually read what gets typed on here. Answer the question, did you drive it 7 hours or not?
Mo' Farts
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