Re: Black plastic 70 cuda grill Q's
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07/21/20 07:10 PM
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I bought an NOS black lower valance in the 90s
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Re: Black plastic 70 cuda grill Q's
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07/24/20 03:27 AM
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Grille was moulded in black plastic, zero black paint on the one I had. Thanks for letting me know! The first molded black plastic grilles showed up in the Gran Coupe. The valance insert was also molded in black plastic, I've only seen them on AAR's and they were not painted. The face on original AAR grilles were painted with organisol, yes, it does have mini flake in it. Also, I have never seen any NOS AAR grilles molded in black plastic, the ones I've ever seen were all grey grilles painted black. MOPAR ran out of black plastic grilles during production and started painting grey grilles black sometime before the last run of AAR's were completed.
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Re: Black plastic 70 cuda grill Q's
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07/24/20 08:03 AM
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Grille was moulded in black plastic, zero black paint on the one I had. Thanks for letting me know! The first molded black plastic grilles showed up in the Gran Coupe. The valance insert was also molded in black plastic, I've only seen them on AAR's and they were not painted. The face on original AAR grilles were painted with organisol, yes, it does have mini flake in it. Also, I have never seen any NOS AAR grilles molded in black plastic, the ones I've ever seen were all grey grilles painted black. MOPAR ran out of black plastic grilles during production and started painting grey grilles black sometime before the last run of AAR's were completed. So somewhere there is a black argent paint formula. Straight black with some reflective flake in it. And I would assume the front valance you have seen also had the same black argent paint on it. Do you have any idea what the earliest production of the gran coupe with the black grill that you have seen was?
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Re: Black plastic 70 cuda grill Q's
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07/24/20 08:06 AM
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Grille was moulded in black plastic, zero black paint on the one I had. Thanks for letting me know! The first molded black plastic grilles showed up in the Gran Coupe. The valance insert was also molded in black plastic, I've only seen them on AAR's and they were not painted. The face on original AAR grilles were painted with organisol, yes, it does have mini flake in it. Also, I have never seen any NOS AAR grilles molded in black plastic, the ones I've ever seen were all grey grilles painted black. MOPAR ran out of black plastic grilles during production and started painting grey grilles black sometime before the last run of AAR's were completed. I did not post on this thread on purpose until we had more posts. I posted my answer on the ebodies website and suggested the same question be asked on here. As usual, there are different opinions posted on both boards. I bought my AAR in 76 with original paint and all original panels. It had never had a bolt turned on the body before I got it. The organisol on the hood was bad when I bought it so I had it repainted. It still has the original paint on the tail panel. It is worn from the few years in the Texas sun. My valance is black plastic with no paint and has still never been out of the car. I removed my grill when I painted the engine compartment in the early 90’s and was surprised to find it was painted with a black paint with very fine metallic in it. It actually makes sense that it has paint. The plastic would come out of the mold very shinny on the slick black surface. I’m sure it would have some slight imperfections from the mold as well. The plastic would deteriorate with no paint on it and exposed to the sun. So I agree with a Mike. He does not miss many things.
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Re: Black plastic 70 cuda grill Q's
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07/24/20 08:14 AM
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I also would love to see the schematics for the V21. that barracuda in the ebay link is bh23gob155434. Purchased from Josepn in N.C. by a flipper who cleaned it and listed it on ebay. Sold for 7600. High in my opinion, but. Lost track of it now. This car is number 24 on my M46 registry. This is 4th from the last known production M46 that I know of. A/11. October. Only a few produced after this by order date code that I have info on. Any info on M46's is appreciated.
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Re: Black plastic 70 cuda grill Q's
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07/24/20 08:20 AM
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Grille was moulded in black plastic, zero black paint on the one I had. Thanks for letting me know! The first molded black plastic grilles showed up in the Gran Coupe. The valance insert was also molded in black plastic, I've only seen them on AAR's and they were not painted. The face on original AAR grilles were painted with organisol, yes, it does have mini flake in it. Also, I have never seen any NOS AAR grilles molded in black plastic, the ones I've ever seen were all grey grilles painted black. MOPAR ran out of black plastic grilles during production and started painting grey grilles black sometime before the last run of AAR's were completed. I did not post on this thread on purpose until we had more posts. I posted my answer on the ebodies website and suggested the same question be asked on here. As usual, there are different opinions posted on both boards. I bought my AAR in 76 with original paint and all original panels. It had never had a bolt turned on the body before I got it. The organisol on the hood was bad when I bought it so I had it repainted. It still has the original paint on the tail panel. It is worn from the few years in the Texas sun. My valance is black plastic with no paint and has still never been out of the car. I removed my grill when I painted the engine compartment in the early 90’s and was surprised to find it was painted with a black paint with very fine metallic in it. It actually makes sense that it has paint. The plastic would come out of the mold very shinny on the slick black surface. I’m sure it would have some slight imperfections from the mold as well. The plastic would deteriorate with no paint on it and exposed to the sun. So I agree with a Mike. He does not miss many things. Thanks Mark. I was curious what the outcome of your aar was. So the front valance had no paint but the grill had black argent paint. What's the production date on your aar? The organisol on all three of my M46's is very poor workmanship. Runs everywhere. Not installed with any talent for sure. Must have been sprayed on Mondays.
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Re: Black plastic 70 cuda grill Q's
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07/25/20 12:26 AM
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Grille was moulded in black plastic, zero black paint on the one I had. Thanks for letting me know! The first molded black plastic grilles showed up in the Gran Coupe. The valance insert was also molded in black plastic, I've only seen them on AAR's and they were not painted. The face on original AAR grilles were painted with organisol, yes, it does have mini flake in it. Also, I have never seen any NOS AAR grilles molded in black plastic, the ones I've ever seen were all grey grilles painted black. MOPAR ran out of black plastic grilles during production and started painting grey grilles black sometime before the last run of AAR's were completed. So somewhere there is a black argent paint formula. Straight black with some reflective flake in it. And I would assume the front valance you have seen also had the same black argent paint on it. Do you have any idea what the earliest production of the gran coupe with the black grill that you have seen was? Original organisol was a lacquer based paint back in the day, I mix my own using urethane hotrod black with House of Color super mini flake and DX1999 texture added. All Gran Coupes started the production year with black plastic grills.
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Re: Black plastic 70 cuda grill Q's
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07/25/20 02:22 PM
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My 70 Gran Coupe SPD 12/16 came with the black grille and it is molded black with no paint on it. Its been in my family since 1976
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